Animals

[Doug R.]

On another note - Cantr animal reproduction is parthenogenetic - only one parent is required to spawn another animal - not two as reported by Doug our new shepard - He has been correct on all other facts Smile

Even staff are susceptible to incorrect conventional wisdom

[formerly known as hf]

Ah, ok, I misunderstood previous posts...

[notsure]

Doug,

In French Land, the number of animals remains high, but what I'm noticing is that even people with iron shields are getting hit for 30 or 40% damage every attack. I understand some people are weaker than others, and that the attacks sometimes get through the shields, but for a deer to attack, get through an iron shield and attack for 40%? It seems a bit much. And for EACH animal attack to get through the shield for maximum damage? My charries were so thrilled to finally make iron for the first time, but apparently they're still not even half-way safe.

Thanks.

[Doug R.]

Notsure,

I've begun manually reducing the groups of bear and boar to 20 animals in the French lands, however, deer simply don't hit for that much damage or that often (1% base attack chance, attack force = 8).

If you want, you can PM me the details of the attacks on your character(s) and I'll use it to determine if other animals need to be reduced as well.

[Doug R.]

Elephants:

Elephants have been changed; they now no longer inhabit hills but can inhabit desert. Considering that Burgeo is almost all hills, I realize that this change could have serious social, economic, and practical repercussions.

I made this change because elephants are not physiologically adapted to living in hills; I've watched tons of nature shows and have never seen an elephant anywhere other than on flat land, and this change is in keeping with my long-term goal to provide diverse and realistic ecosystems.

If this change is seriously going to screw things up on Burgeo, let's talk about it here.

[MakeBeliever]

I don't think it will make a huge difference to Burgeo because of all the other beasts there to be found also. It's an odd wild Safari island anyway, as long as they have places on the island they can still live on it should be fine.
As you move inland to the Burgeo forests it's not really the Elephants that are the most to be wary of. Last time my char took the ride inland to a nearby forest there was 177 Rhino's, plus you have your Gorilla's, Wolves, Lions, and Bears and many others that will try to kill you just as easy.
It's a great island because it's so dangerous, if your character snoozes on travels they won't wake, simple as that.
If it's other wild animals were taken away too much there is risk it will become a mini K isle, they like living with a little danger on Burgeo.

I am curious though, are the animals on Burgeo set to be more aggresive, or is it their sheer numbers that make then vicious to be near.? If you have a group travelling and you get a newspawn in one of the inland forests, the make a wooden shack theory to escape the animals is just not possible without tons of healings. I'd say you'd be lucky enough to last the time it takes to make a bone shield if you were unlucky to spawn a character insland and thats from seeing that attempted ingame.
You can expect up to more then five attacks a day by travelling solo to uninhabitated towns and because a few attack at once sometimes you have to alert for that.
The reason i ask is that i have one on what my char calls the Ranlands, the mixed with polish language island. They also have huge Elephants, wolves and cheetah's but have only been attacked about three times in their near sixty years maybe and get on fine with just a wooden shield. The towns are just as uninhabitated as Burgeo but they are very docile there, maybe it's all the herbs around for them to eat, who knows. Or it could be that the island is so very vast that they just don't get overcrowded in numbers like Burgeo. Apart from the Lemmings on Ranlands, so many lemmings, there is nothing like a little lemming golf with and upturned sledgehammer.

[Doug R.]

It's the sheer numbers. The key to survival on Burgeo is to stay on the roads or indoors. I agree that a newspawn wouldn't have time to make a bone shield there.

[Frits]

Is that so? The last time i travelled on Burgeo was from about day 1860 thru 1880, i was hunting everything i could see but i was attacked at least 3 times during that trip. The roads may not be safe either! (or i shouldn't hunt)
Re your observing of natureshows i see what you mean but i know elephants can run at 20 miles or 32 kilometers per hour. On average, that's not counting the athletic types... now i didn't ask a cameracrew but i can imagine they would rather not film the wild in bushy hills far away from their vehicle. For one vision is hampered so they are liable to get ambushed and there could be holes and bumps on the slopes, not what you want if you're looking to get to your car fast.

[Doug R.]

I just don't think an animal that weighs in the tons is going to be dragging itself up and down hills all day. It would be a tremendous strain on the joints (mentally tries to picture an elephant walking down a steep hill). Regardless, camera people go anywhere; didn't you watch the Planet Earth series the BBC just put out?

[Cherize]

I just don't think an animal that weighs in the tons is going to be dragging itself up and down hills all day. It would be a tremendous strain on the joints (mentally tries to picture an elephant walking down a steep hill). Regardless, camera people go anywhere; didn't you watch the Planet Earth series the BBC just put out?

I got two words for ya.

Hannibal ........ Alps

[Piscator]

Yeah, but would they've crossed the alps without hannibal behind them?

[Frits]

That trek was documented and it came out not even 1 in 10 elephants survived so that comment is way off the mark. Even when it were mountains and foothills.
The planet earth series i didn't see a lot off but i saw a bbcprogram on how they had filmed. They had used military equipment devellopped in the nineties and shot from the ground and the air using a chopper and state of the art zoomequipment, also the images were enhanced using software. Imagine automated fotoshopping... so the pictures you get are not what you can call real, a bit of guesswork is added to sharpen and fill the shot. Really impressive how they can zoom over several miles distance and still keep the object in focus with aid of a computer.

[Zanthos]

or 90 percent of the camera men died...

but i think hanniblal and the alps is a fine example.

[Frits]

Well they won't traverse mountains off their own free will.
I'm not arguing if they do live in hills or not. It's the trail of thought that's bothering me but i guess i've lost a few along the way.

[Doug R.]

Nevermind. I changed it back.