The future of Bhak

[David]

I didn't realize they killed so many people, lol.

[Bowser]

With that said keep in mind I love you as people, just disagree with this incident. Chrissy

I agree totally. I don't know that I love all you, but I do enjoy the game and the forum. I enjoy different points of view, I enjoy debating things, I enjoy merely lurking and reading your thoughts.

I feel bad that this incident has caused so much resentment and drama.

I am not here to play a hack and slash game and record the highed corpse count.

Sring Sri reamins true to this game being a Society Simulator. When a people with a higher level of technology enter a new area, the natives either assimilate, get pushed out, or killed. Thats what happened here.

[JJ]

but unlike Rk's idea of all of the people being killed off...no not EVERY body was killed. =P

[Chrissy]

Well Bowser, if you feel even a tiny bit bad then my job is done..

I can understand your point of view on it. The islanders definatly weren't fond of Devestron. I do feel there was other ways to achieve your goals though.

I keep hearing about how the island is now under one power, but it already was. I heard a few people talking bad about Dev over the years, and my char would quietly think, oooh, your gonna' get it.. if that guy knew what could happen he wouldn't speak out against the King. So, he already had the power, it was just a matter of how he used it.

Chrissy

[Ash]

Lets face it, guys, girls, does it actually have a future? One of my chars escaped the island with only the food that he carries on his person, and at the moment the future is not bright and is not orange, the future is darkblue, and quite unlikely.

[Meh]

Well, it isn't too hard to be united when you kill everyone that disagrees.

You want to see unity look at the Commonwealth or the future of the Quillanoi/Siom/Brunoi/Tircqi region. Those places are united or will be but not through force of arms or simply force of killing everyone else (which in my opinion is extremely bad Role Playing).

Well, you have your unity. Too bad you won't have any newspawns because you killed everyone.

I think if a place is down below five people then there should be no chance of people spawning there or like a 1% chance of it happening. That way places that are slaughtered don't spring back up and if they do it will take many year to.

Yes and Lad welcomes with open arms all those that disargee with it.

What is the difference between a massacre and daily executions?

[Meh]

Just for the record, my character from the Sring-sri island is 38. He's lead a very full life, he's made friends, he's lost friends, he's travelled to every town on the island, he spoke with King Dev on a couple occasions, my char is a happy guy and never wanted power. I agree, a character should make the most of where ever they are. My character that was on that island is the one I'm most proud of. He left by boat, a few minutes it seems like, before the massacre. If he hadn't left, he'd be dead. When I talk about people killing themselves off on that island, I'm not suggesting it, I'm just stating a fact that does exsist. Also, the only thing I've really learned is that the massacre happened because people were "talking bad" about the D.I.G. people..? That's really insecure and lame of whoever was the svengali of the plan. If your in a position of power, people will talk bad about you. It's usually out of jealousy. What are going to do? Kill everyone who "says bad things" about you. lol. I don't know if there such a thing as "overkilling" but, I know that this incident was senseless. The islanders were equiped with trowels and wooden shields. If the D.I.G is that threatened by defensless people gossiping about them then may I suggest you guys get some thicker skin.

With that said keep in mind I love you as people, just disagree with this incident.

Chrissy

Can I discuss Bjolt or the Macgregors? If you look like you don't log in or you are rude you are DEAD.

[Meh]

oou guys are just ridiculous. You run towns were you have defended daily butchery in this forum and have the nerve to whine when it happens to you?

I have no sympathy nor do my dead charcters.

Someone succeeded in killing a bunch of older player's charcters. I say Nyah Nyah Nyah Nyah-Nyah.

That being said.

The violence system does need work.

I still like playing even when I get killed.

It took me some time to accept that stuff that goes on in Lad and Bjolt but I have. Now you need to accept what happend here.

Remember I am just a likely to get wiped off of this island since the executioners do not know me.

[thingnumber2]

I agree that the violence system needs some work, but it's alright for now....I have lost a bunch of my favorite characters to play, from massacres, and other sensless killings...I'm not mad or bitter, it's all part of the game...and it's still a fun and interesting game...in fact, while the massacre was happening, and all that happened because of it, I was telling my bro how much I love this game, cuz things someone coming in to massacre you, then u make a deal with them, then you slip up, they chase you down and kill you, can actually happen...

[David]

Yes and Lad welcomes with open arms all those that disargee with it.

What is the difference between a massacre and daily executions?

Oh no... systemic killing is soo much more civilized and Cantr appropriate...

heheh

(as long as its institutionalized and has been going on for Cantr-centuries it has legitimacy ROFL)

Either is fine really in Cantr, even though combat needs to be changed some.

[JJ]

even more? its already hell enough you might not block the shot and even hit points range. how much more crapy can it get?

[Bowser]

Its okay for Sring-Sri to want to attack and take over Shai, but when Dhung decides they don't need Sring-Sri in an alliance and can handle the entire island by itself, the forum gets filled with Dhung bashers.

Here is a note that was delivered to Dhung many, many years ago...

To the government of Dhung from the tribal counsil of Sring-Sri:

Greetings good people. There is an unfortunate situation which has befallen the peaceful people of Sring-Sri. Armed men from Shai entered our land and declared war on us. They informed us that they were taking control of our land, and that we could become citizens of their federation or leave our homeland. Before much could happen, someone from Shai arrived and said there was a "situation with Dhung and Bhak". The
men whispered back and forth amongst themselves. One of the men said "Shai people,we must return home to prepare." It is unknown to us exactly what they were speaking of, or if "prepare" has something to do with you all and Bhak, or something else alltogether.

Sring-Sri has no resources of interest to anyone, which leads us to believe that Shai wants our land only as a means of spreading their influence beyond their current borders, and that they want to control the island`s birthing grounds. If they succeed in their mission, the effects on my people will be devestating, and may pose a threat to the other towns on the island. In an effort to come out of this situation successfully, the people of Sring-Sri are sending diplomats to both your town and to Bhak, to offer the following agreement.

What we propose is this: At a time agreed upon by Sring-Sri, Dhung, and Bhak, the three towns will mount a strike against Shai to remove its current government from power. This would allow one of several possibilities.

Among them are:
(1) Dhung and Bhak own Shai and allow Sring-Sri to collect cooking wood freely,
(2) Sring-Sri owns Shai and gives 5,000 grams of wood each year to both your town and Dhung for ten years, plus Bhak and Dhung may gather wood on their own for free forever.
(3)Bhak, Dhung, and Sring-Sri own Shai together, and each town stations teams there to gather what each town needs.
(4) Shai is not attacked at all, but troops are stationed in Sring-Sri until Shai signs a declaration that it will not expand outside of its current borders under threat of war.

Please send any response you may have with the Sring-Sri message bearers. If you choose to station troops in our land, please send any available immediately.

Your humble neighbor,
Sring-Sri

P.S. The messengers also carry copies of several notes relating to the situation. -"To John Miller"- This note was written by a Sring-Sri resident regarding thefts which the Shai people committed during their short stay, proving that their intentions are not innocent.

-"Federation address to the people of Sring-Sri"- This note was given to us upon their arrival. It declares war on us and claims that our "leaders" (we have no government) stole from them.

-"Temporary regulations for Sring-Sri"- This note was an attempt to appease our frustration and get us to go along with the takeover in a peaceful manner. They indicated that the things in this note would go against their usual laws, which seems to indicate that their "usual laws" severely restrict a person`s freedom.

Other general points:
-Since they returned to Shai, people from Shai have arrived at Sring-Sri, stood silently for about 6 turns, and then left for Shai again. Another person arrives on the same turn as the previous person leaves, and does the same thing. We can only assume that these are scouts, but we don`t know if they are just watching us, or if they are watching for something relating to "the situation with Bhak and Dhung."
-This morning, a woman arrived from Shai and said "snorlax snorlax kill", and struck many of Sring-Sri`s residents. She then returned to Shai. We don`t know why she did it, but it at least indicates that Shai doesn`t care about its neighbors or take themseriously.

[jeslange]

hehehe, I wrote that.

[Bowser]

And the federation located in Shai I assume wrote to Sring-Sri (not sure the time frame compared to the first note)

Federation Address to Sring-sri

People of Sring-sri. I am in deep regret that I had to bring upon a war on you. I had wished there to be another way, but I found that to be impossible. You might be wonder why this happened, well I will tell you why this happened. We have only offered peace and hospitality to all of the neighboring towns, however several “leaders” of Sring-sri decided they would take advantage of us and disrespect us and our customs. We had, had several people from Sring-sri come into our town and steal
from us and not only that they lied as well. We cannot allow that to happen, so we must eliminate the threat that we see happening in Sring-sri. Those of you not involved with their schemes will not be held responsible for their actions, and we wish that you would join us and our help to make the island better. Please do not see this as a negative thing, think of this as a good thing, with the Federation’s supply of wood, Sring-sri will become even better now as the Federation State of Sring-sri. So please do not resist the Federation in turning Sring-sri into a Federation State. If you are not apart of the aggression of Sring-sri then you may of course leave. Good luck people of Sring-sri.
- Signed President Jessie James of the Federation

The point of sharing these notes with you are to illustrate my opinion that what DIG did is not any different than what Sring-Sri and Shai have also been involved in. The only difference is that DIG has the power and resources (sabres and shields) to do it forcefully and dominantly. Condemn us for being wealthy and powerful.

[jeslange]

That's the note declaring war on Sring-Sri by Shai. The note Sring-Sri wrote to Dhung and Bhak was in response to Shai's aggression.