Locked?

[Doug R.]

No, it must be you. I've been in there for a good part of the day.

[SickGerm]

The times on the Forum are definatly off... can someone tell me around what time Jos said they were almost done and where you live so I can figure it for New England.

[Chris Johnson]

2 1/2 hours before your post . This post is at 9:08pm GMT

We are still not finished

[Shaderon]

Well I can tell you are a long way down the line, as when I log in I can see percentages again and they look more or less right.

Well done guys! Good luck on the fiddly bits, I'm keeping my fingers crossed for yaz all.

[Ahoyhoy]

I miss Cantr. First a hurricane takes it away and now this . I'm not complaining or nothing, you guys are doing the best you can do, it just sucks.

[SickGerm]

Thanks Kris

I've gotten so bored without Cantr that I am trying to teach myself SQL ... it's actually pretty sad considering I don't even know if you need a program to use it yet. Just noteing what I can.

[Wolf]

SickGerm, which branch of SQL?
SQLite?
Postgresql?
MySQL?
MS SQL?
There's a few out there.

(just joking, I know it probably boils down to MySQL)

MySQL is a database, it can do without other programs, but usually some kind of interface is used.
Web-based interfaces, or other software (MySQL Commander is one I briefly used in the past), or even the plain CMD interface (the standard Windows-thing) can be used.

!@#@$%$# *decides to program his system to stay away from submit-buttons until it's really needed*

As I was saying, there are several interfaces.
I'm no expert on MySQL, but while it's the most commonly used database, there are some beefs with stability and security that could really ruin someone's day.
In the case of Cantr, so far it seems to work out alright in that field (well, as far as the threat-level from malevolent people goes), the database is actively backed up, and there are people working with it, which already means that a potential attacker would have a greater chance of being nailed.
Anyways, that's not important here, but if you're serious about learning, I suspect you'll be spending a lot of time in forums regarding PHP, ASP, and other languages, besides more MySQL-specific forums.
In that case, don't be discouraged by the unavoidable "noob-bashers", they are many in number, but the ones that matter are the ones that will actually answer your questions.

[Jur Schagen]

As a professional developer I have always wondered how it feels when you
realize you've goofed up like this.

Is it cold sweat and heavy heart beating, or what does it feel like?

Hard to describe... it moves through the muscles, or maybe the veins, of your body, spreading outward from the neck, for a full second or so, maybe two. A bit like... electricity, but not like you get a shock or anything. It's dead cold and very calm, like a flow.

Then it is time to act, lock the game, alert the others, etc... but that ain't physical anymore.

And if you're a professional developer, how do you manage to _not_ goof up every now and then?

No, Nick, no mail bombs for me. My fellow ProgD members have been extremely kind, focusing on solutions rather than blamings, and made a lot of effort to solve something that I could never have alone. Thanks, guys.

We're waiting for Jos to come back online to do the last step... he said it would be around midnight, I'm guessing Ireland time.

Jur.

[formerly known as hf]

It seems to be up

[EchoMan]

Hard to describe... it moves through the muscles, or maybe the veins, of your body, spreading outward from the neck, for a full second or so, maybe two. A bit like... electricity, but not like you get a shock or anything. It's dead cold and very calm, like a flow.

Then it is time to act, lock the game, alert the others, etc... but that ain't physical anymore.

Ahh, sounds interesting.

And if you're a professional developer, how do you manage to _not_ goof up every now and then?

A bit off topic, but generally I am careful when I do things. Specifically, a local development copy of everything (including a copy of the DB) using CVS to check in changes that I know is good. If I goof anything up, it's on my own local copy.

[Nick]

Sure, rub it in.
Thanks for fixing it guys. I've notice that the communication and activity of the PrD has been a lot better these past months, which is great.

[Wolf]

Ahhhh I got my fix for now.
Too bad that my final minute ended just when one of my chars was about to lay the smack down on some wild animals, but... they'll be dealt with tomorrow.

Anyways, thanks for pulling me out of those horrible withdrawl symptoms

[Just A Bill]

Good Job all. Was any thought given to just reverting the time back to the last save and just letting us play forward from there. What would we have lost, a day or so that we could replay... Might have been easier on the ProgD staff.

[marol]

No. The delay was mostly caused by waiting for backup restoration. We made scripts and other stuff reverting situation to before-deletion state in a hour or two, so when projects were restored from backup, we have been prepared to revert it almost immediately to current state.

[Shaderon]

Hard to describe... it moves through the muscles, or maybe the veins, of your body, spreading outward from the neck, for a full second or so, maybe two. A bit like... electricity, but not like you get a shock or anything. It's dead cold and very calm, like a flow.
Jur.

I know that feeling, it happens when you run the restore instead of the update script on a business critical mainframe as well.... and when the tape is 2 weeks old it's a bad bad feeling when you get to the bit when you are actually thinking how to get round it. *Grimaces at the memory*

Jur, like they say accidents happen, and yours was a minor one. I don't think anyone here can say anything, we've all done similar stuff I bet.