The End of the Alexian Empire

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Postby nitefyre » Wed Aug 11, 2004 4:05 pm

jeslange wrote:"A Tale of the Road" will come out in its full version fairly soon.


I felt a need to bring this topic back up, so excuse my bumping.

:( Too bad Collin died. :cry: Whahahahaahah, why?

Its a good story though, I enjoyed reading it. And I hold a copy with my char.
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For those who want to know...

Postby g1asswa1ker » Tue Aug 31, 2004 6:00 pm

This seems the best place to post this. Some people might like to know facts about characters. Most of you wont care to know this but Seargent Orcs was not a citizen of LAD she was a MERC for LAD and a native of Cantr City. ,,,I say this for those who want to know since I have re-evaluated my thoughts on LAD as a whole in its beginnings I hated it didn't like how things where done there. Even though later I still played a character there I still didn't like it very much but I understood the RP aspect of it and continued to RP the characters as she should have been played. I have since thought about those times and find that LAD isn't that bad of a place considering the times and how things effect each other. Well there you have it. I admit that LAD was not to bad of a place. :P
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Postby Sparkle » Tue Aug 31, 2004 8:43 pm

Is there a hurricane about to hit you glasswalker. I noticed it on tv and I used to be in the militarty there and was just curious.

Back to the topic.....I as a person don't like Lad, but my character takes her role in it very well. Sometimes it's scary thinking that she is a slave there and can't leave for the rest of her life but she likes to follow rules and as long as she's kept busy she has lots of fun. She also don't like the fact that the Emperor or what ever he is just shots out demands and everybody does it like he's GOD or something... :roll: Some of the people there needs to get a life. Other then that Lad's a cool place to live in. It's very organized and they take great care of there people.
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Postby Molested.Peach. (cky) » Wed Sep 15, 2004 8:26 pm

Lad. will not fall while im in its army. Its holding strong right now very small force but a well armed one. Even though im a private i still could kick some major ass...But also isent the peace talks under way right now. i was at the meeting were they were talking about peace.
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Postby The Industriallist » Wed Sep 15, 2004 8:57 pm

Back when it had a large, well-armed force, it got the entire thing killed. At this point, Alenz Hills could probably do the job, if the connecting roads are good enough.

Although technically you might be out of the guard (discharged dead) by the time Lad fell.

Of course, their is that peace business. I wonder if it will last.
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Postby Molested.Peach. (cky) » Wed Sep 15, 2004 10:07 pm

Well personally myself i don't think the peace will last, Lad may fall in the hands of a new goverment soon... If it keeps going how it is. But i hope the Empire changes i don't like there ways, when i was living there as a civilion i was locked away in the work shop, than i joined the guard and now im defending some stupid quite forest and there is no reason to be there, they act as if 1 man can stop a army. If there is only 1 man at the post they can pick off the army but it is my opionion i just guard and follow orders...I hope i don't die, my last Char. there died while trying to invade the enemys land...Haha that was a masscure they killed most of us on the road. But anyway back to the subject, Lad will fall sooner or later unless we get a new leader who knows what he is doing. (excuse my grammer and spelling im 13 and im learning how to do all these things so just bear with me lol)
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Postby rklenseth » Sun Sep 19, 2004 1:52 pm

The Alexian Empire has already fallen. It is no where near to where it was in the past. It would say the Empire has been falling apart since the first Emperor Alexi Romanov died and now has taken aa great blow with the death of Emperor Senacca Hawethorne who in my opinion could have taken the Empire in the right direction and back to its former glory.

Now I don't think anyone is going to take out Ladvicitavoi right now. It is simply because Ladvicitavoi no longer poses a threat and I think Alenz Hills is holding back because they don't have the manpower to take over and control the vast territory of the former Alexian Empire and they really don't have a reason to take over. The Alexian Empire doesn't really have any valuable resources except for Hematite which Alenz Hills already has access to. Alenz Hills I think will continue to control their territories which contain many valuable resources including Hematite, Limestone, Coal, and Wood. They also control the population center of Cantr City. So there wouldn't be any gain from taking over the former Alexian Empire's territories except for the purpose of we defeated the Alexian Empire or conquered the Alexian Empire of an already defeated and conquered Alexian Empire. The only other reason Alenz Hills would attack is if the Alexian Empire becomes a threat again which I don't see happening in the near future because Ladvicitavoi first needs a leader who will unite the Empire. And that could be Cantr decades from happening.

Don't get me wrong though. I believe the Alexian Empire could come back someday and it has the potential of being strong again. It just needs that one strong leader who will unite the people in a common cause which is what Emperor Romanov did as well as Emperor Hawethorne. The current leadership does not have a uniting and common cause to unite the people behind. Emperor Romanov had the barbarian invasion from Naron and Emperor Hawethorne had the barbarian invasion from Alenz Hills. Romanov was successful against Naron and Hawethorne was ambushed by DoUrden before he could get to Alenz Hills.

And I don't think DoUrden Estates will pose a problem at this moment. DoUrden got their revenge on the Alexian Empire for the killing of their leader and founder Zak DoUrden with the death of Emperor Hawethorne and the Grand Army in the Battle of Brinks Forest. The only reason why DoUrden would attack Ladvicitavoi would be to raid it for wealth. I also don't think the alliance between DoUrden Estates and Alenz Hills will last forever. Eventually one or the other (most likely DoUrden) will get jealous of the other's wealth and will turn on the other. With the Alexian Empire no longer a threat that could very well happen soon since neither of the two need the alliance between each other anymore.
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Postby Molested.Peach. (cky) » Sun Sep 19, 2004 8:15 pm

Serenity (rklenseth) wrote:The Alexian Empire has already fallen. It is no where near to where it was in the past. It would say the Empire has been falling apart since the first Emperor Alexi Romanov died and now has taken aa great blow with the death of Emperor Senacca Hawethorne who in my opinion could have taken the Empire in the right direction and back to its former glory.

Now I don't think anyone is going to take out Ladvicitavoi right now. It is simply because Ladvicitavoi no longer poses a threat and I think Alenz Hills is holding back because they don't have the manpower to take over and control the vast territory of the former Alexian Empire and they really don't have a reason to take over. The Alexian Empire doesn't really have any valuable resources except for Hematite which Alenz Hills already has access to. Alenz Hills I think will continue to control their territories which contain many valuable resources including Hematite, Limestone, Coal, and Wood. They also control the population center of Cantr City. So there wouldn't be any gain from taking over the former Alexian Empire's territories except for the purpose of we defeated the Alexian Empire or conquered the Alexian Empire of an already defeated and conquered Alexian Empire. The only other reason Alenz Hills would attack is if the Alexian Empire becomes a threat again which I don't see happening in the near future because Ladvicitavoi first needs a leader who will unite the Empire. And that could be Cantr decades from happening.

Don't get me wrong though. I believe the Alexian Empire could come back someday and it has the potential of being strong again. It just needs that one strong leader who will unite the people in a common cause which is what Emperor Romanov did as well as Emperor Hawethorne. The current leadership does not have a uniting and common cause to unite the people behind. Emperor Romanov had the barbarian invasion from Naron and Emperor Hawethorne had the barbarian invasion from Alenz Hills. Romanov was successful against Naron and Hawethorne was ambushed by DoUrden before he could get to Alenz Hills.

And I don't think DoUrden Estates will pose a problem at this moment. DoUrden got their revenge on the Alexian Empire for the killing of their leader and founder Zak DoUrden with the death of Emperor Hawethorne and the Grand Army in the Battle of Brinks Forest. The only reason why DoUrden would attack Ladvicitavoi would be to raid it for wealth. I also don't think the alliance between DoUrden Estates and Alenz Hills will last forever. Eventually one or the other (most likely DoUrden) will get jealous of the other's wealth and will turn on the other. With the Alexian Empire no longer a threat that could very well happen soon since neither of the two need the alliance between each other anymore.


I agree alot on this, the leader now in Ladvicitavoi isent a very good one. He sleeps way to much and when he is awake just yells orders that mean nothing to anyone, Its so boreing right now in Lad. That i asked to be re- postioned in the forest just to see other people, right now the forest has nothing in it but me. But i hope Lad. Doesnt get attacked, there are alot of good people that i like in it. Im sorry to say but if the barbarians want to take the emporper or kill him, I would not mind pretending i saw a army go by my post. lol as long as they only kill him, yes its something horrible to say but we need a new leader. Also i was in the battle of Brinks forest, to me it really wasnt a battle it was a massacure. When we were on the road 2 Barbarians took out most of our guys. When we got there (not very many left at all) We got owned by them. I died in that battle, but i got a few hits on a few of there guys :wink: But anyway. When lad. gets a new leader the Alexian Empire will rise in more power, at least i hope it rises and not falls. I don't want to lose another guy because of the leaders stupid mistake.
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Postby Surly » Fri Sep 24, 2004 9:03 pm

I have to say that Lad. doesn't currently pose a threat, but all it needs is one man to pull it out from its current decay...

I also feel the alliance between DoUrden and Alenz Hills is getting a bit strained. With the death of Robert Smith, DoUrden have lost their last main link with Alenz Hills (he ran DoUrden and consequently was the only reason for the alliance). But Alenz Hills has taken very few steps to continue the alliance, and the attitude of some of Piers employees (naming no names) have irked certain members of DoUrden. The organisation might well not be there if Lad. ever recovers. And I hope it does, because those were definitely interesting times...

I actually think the more interesting question is whether DoUrden and Alenz Hills continue any kind of link. Both have small units of dedicated people, and both have shown tactical prowess before... Albeit against the Lad. attacks. So although Alenz Hills outnumber DoUrden, I think that could be a very interesting fight...

Anyway, just my thoughts. More to do with Alenz and DoUrden than Lad. but oh well...
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Postby The Industriallist » Fri Sep 24, 2004 9:17 pm

I wish you hadn't posted that. I don't think Robert's death was common knowledge.

As for interesting times...it wouldn't be in the interests of either side, but that doesn't mean it won't happen. :twisted:
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Postby rklenseth » Fri Sep 24, 2004 11:26 pm

The Surly Hound wrote:I have to say that Lad. doesn't currently pose a threat, but all it needs is one man to pull it out from its current decay...

I also feel the alliance between DoUrden and Alenz Hills is getting a bit strained. With the death of Robert Smith, DoUrden have lost their last main link with Alenz Hills (he ran DoUrden and consequently was the only reason for the alliance). But Alenz Hills has taken very few steps to continue the alliance, and the attitude of some of Piers employees (naming no names) have irked certain members of DoUrden. The organisation might well not be there if Lad. ever recovers. And I hope it does, because those were definitely interesting times...

I actually think the more interesting question is whether DoUrden and Alenz Hills continue any kind of link. Both have small units of dedicated people, and both have shown tactical prowess before... Albeit against the Lad. attacks. So although Alenz Hills outnumber DoUrden, I think that could be a very interesting fight...

Anyway, just my thoughts. More to do with Alenz and DoUrden than Lad. but oh well...


Pretty much what I said above.

Also one should take note that the Grand Army of the Alexian Empire was about 10 times the size of DoUrden but DoUrden still defeated them in the end. So numbers don't really count because DoUrden has already defeated much larger numbers.
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Postby nitefyre » Fri Sep 24, 2004 11:31 pm

My curiousity is unquenched about this battle, since I wasn't directly involved.

Aproximately how many TOTAL men did Lad have? I've never acknowledged the scope of the size of cantr armies before.

Edit: I'll deduct from this: " Also one should take note that the Grand Army of the Alexian Empire was about 10 times the size of DoUrden but DoUrden still defeated them in the end. So numbers don't really count because DoUrden has already defeated much larger numbers."
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Postby The Industriallist » Sat Sep 25, 2004 12:34 am

My character saw maybe 8-10 people. If there were more, I missed them. DoUrden had at least 8 people at the time...
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Postby rklenseth » Sat Sep 25, 2004 12:44 am

The Industriallist wrote:My character saw maybe 8-10 people. If there were more, I missed them. DoUrden had at least 8 people at the time...


There had to be at least about 20. I forgot the actually number but but it was up that range. For some reason 22 comes to mind. DoUrden didn't kill all of the soldiers. About half escaped back to Ladvicitavoi or to other places like Vray Hills. Even General Sester Gartaf got away until he was betrayed by one of his soldiers and betrayed again by one of his trusted Captains (not that I'm going to name names coughNICKcough) in Northern Ladvicitavoi Forest. It was probably around 8 or 10 that DoUrden actually killed or captured and later killed in their prison in Brinks Forest. I believe Robert Smith also trapped a number of them in the Estates when they tried to break in by locking them up in it and later killing them too.

The number was up there but maybe Jerry will remember the exact number because I don't. Jerry might also be able to tell you the exact description of what happened in the battle since Sester got there first and was attacked and escaped but wasn't able to warn Hawethorne or the Army in time that they were walking into an ambush.
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Postby rklenseth » Sat Sep 25, 2004 12:47 am

I think at the time that DoUrden had about 5 active members in the Forest during the battle. Towards the end of the battle, I believe they got some reinforcements from Alenz Hills and Cantr City so the numbers rose in the end. I'm not counting those that arrived toward the end of the battle since by that time the battle had already been decided for the most part.

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