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Postby Gunny1723 » Wed Feb 18, 2004 9:16 pm

lol Jeslange I remember when that happend lol none of my chars knows much if anything about Hematite so it will be interasting to see some of there expersions when they learn about it lol
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Postby nitefyre » Wed Feb 18, 2004 9:17 pm

Oh and so instead of saying Bullsh-t, my character said Moosesh-t. I guess thats what we hafta say in Cantr.
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Postby .::. MysticGötén .::. » Wed Feb 18, 2004 9:18 pm

using IRL knowledge IG is a mistake you make easilly. It's kinda hard to pretend to not know wot a hammer is used for, as an example.
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Postby Gunny1723 » Wed Feb 18, 2004 9:20 pm

yes its a great game but your right using RL knowledge IG tends to happen alot I think, I trie hard not to do that anymore....
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Postby .::. MysticGötén .::. » Wed Feb 18, 2004 9:23 pm

I try not to that too, but sometimes you just don't think about the fact that ya char wouldn't know that yet.
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Postby rklenseth » Wed Feb 18, 2004 9:42 pm

This is what I do. When I have a character spawned in a new area, I sort of research the area. I read whatever knows are around, what projects are being done.

So this is how I figure things out;

Either my character builds random tools and plays around with them until he finds a use for them.

Looks at other projects; if he sees that a someone is using a trowel to build a stone house then he knows that he can do that.

The only time I look something up is if I need a physical description of it. Such as sorghum. No one knew what the hell it was used for in Cantr City for a long time. So I looked it up and saw that it was grass similiar to wheat. Since my character in Cantr City already knew that wheat was for making bread, he came to the conclusion that the same could be done with sorghum. And eventually the people in Cantr City figured out how to make sorghum bread.

And then there is always what you can learn from notes or other characters.
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Postby rklenseth » Wed Feb 18, 2004 9:45 pm

Things like eating and talking I figured my characters learned during their childhood.

So whatever location my character is spawned in, I figure he automatically knows what things can be eaten and what cannot. Now if something comes from other places then he does not but he can learn by either picking it up and trying to eat it the next day or by someone else telling them.
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Postby nitefyre » Wed Feb 18, 2004 9:50 pm

rklenseth wrote:Things like eating and talking I figured my characters learned during their childhood.
So whatever location my character is spawned in, I figure he automatically knows what things can be eaten and what cannot. Now if something comes from other places then he does not but he can learn by either picking it up and trying to eat it the next day or by someone else telling them.


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Postby .::. MysticGötén .::. » Wed Feb 18, 2004 9:53 pm

(Usually) when you begin a project, it says wot tools you will need. You don't have to look at other projects for that :wink:
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Postby rklenseth » Wed Feb 18, 2004 9:57 pm

MysticGoten wrote:(Usually) when you begin a project, it says wot tools you will need. You don't have to look at other projects for that :wink:


Well, personally, I think that should be taken out. If my characters don't see the tool being used then he doesn't know what to use it for until he tries a project. If my character can't do something because he doesn't have the right tools then he keeps trying other tools.

It would make it easier for this type of roleplaying if it didn't tell you what you needed but there are some that thing it will make it to hard and frustrating for newbies and I guess I agree with them on that point.
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Postby Nick » Wed Feb 18, 2004 10:00 pm

I wonder if you will ever cure your problem........
Ive made leather myself, its quite possible.
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Postby .::. MysticGötén .::. » Wed Feb 18, 2004 10:03 pm

Indeed it would be better if you knew as little as possible when you first begin and if as little info as possible is given.

But some information, like how much stuff you will need to make tools would be impossible to miss. (Like a hammer.. you would have to figure out days how much wood you would need, 1 gram at a time... )

But it would be fun if everybody try all the things out.
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Postby rklenseth » Wed Feb 18, 2004 10:18 pm

This is something I would like to see;

You don't know how something is built until....

1. You have enough materials to build it.
2. You see someone else already building one.
3. You see one made but that only tells you what materials are needed but not how much.

You don't know a use for something until....

1. You see someone else use it.
2. You experiment and find the right conclusion.
3. Someone tells you but you would need to actually do the action before you know thus would sort of be linked to #2 above.

I know this would be hard to program and some people think it will give an unfair disadvantage to experienced players when compared to newbies. But I still think this system would be better.
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Postby .::. MysticGötén .::. » Wed Feb 18, 2004 10:26 pm

That would be better indeed, but I don't really offend to the system concerning building tools/buildings as it is now myself. I mean, that would make the game a bit to complicated for new players I think. Friends of mine already stopped playing this game when they were new cauz they didn't understand it. (I know... they r stupid but they remain my friends lol)
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Postby new.vogue.nightmare » Thu Feb 19, 2004 12:07 am

It's good to have stupid friends. Easier to control...of course if they're too stupid they're just useless, and it is good to have an intellectual equal to talk to...sometimes.
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