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Sho
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Postby Sho » Wed Dec 31, 2003 9:03 pm

In its purest form, mathematics is purely logical, but the way most people learn it, a large amount of rote memorization is involved. Not to say that people with good logical reasoning skills don't do well in math.
I personally don't think IQ tests mean much. I took the Emode test a while back but don't remember what I got.
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Postby kroner » Fri Jan 02, 2004 7:46 am

Yes, 'tis a shame. Memorization is a fairly poor way to learn math, but I suppose it's the most effective way to teach it to large groups with varying logical reasoning skills.

I've never taken an IQ test....
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Postby Bowser » Sat Jan 03, 2004 7:39 am

I remember taking timed quizzes on my multiplication tables in 3rd grade. We memorized 2x2=4 and such all the way up to 12x12. You have to admit there is no better way for a little one to learn math facts liek that than pure memorization (with a background of understanding why).

I know why 134x72=9648, but if I did not memorize it or work it out, I wouldn't be able to tell it to you off the top of my head using logic.

In order to work it out, I need to know 2x4=8. Do I know that because it has been drilled in my head or I can logically derive the answer?
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Postby sammigurl61190 » Sat Jan 03, 2004 7:59 am

I remember those timed tests...I hated those. I used to blank on the answers just because of the ticking of the timer in the background--it was so annoying. When I was younger, I used to know all my multiplication tables but I forgot them. I mean, if I think about it I can get it, but it doesn't come off the tip of my tongue like it used to.

But then again, the same thing happened with left and rights....
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Sho
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Postby Sho » Sat Jan 03, 2004 9:04 pm

If you know the definition of "multiplication" you can easily show that 2x4=8. 2 added to itself 4 times is 8.
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Postby The Hunter » Sat Jan 03, 2004 9:18 pm

:?:

Now you've lost me. :oops:
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Postby Báng » Sat Jan 03, 2004 11:20 pm

I was lost when they got started on maths, I got a B in my math GCSE....somehow. And I don't particularly want to have much to do with it again.
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Sho
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Postby Sho » Sun Jan 04, 2004 2:42 am

A clarification of my earlier reply to Bowser's question:
If you accept the definition of "multiplication" as
"The process of repeating, or adding to itself, any given number or quantity a certain number of times" (Webster's Unabridged)
then to find what 2x4 is, you just add 2 to itself 4 times. This is 2+2+2+2, which equals 8.
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Postby kroner » Sun Jan 04, 2004 3:51 am

you also need the definition of whole numbers along with their order, but yeah, Sho's right.
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Postby g1asswa1ker » Sun Jan 04, 2004 4:06 am

Math is a proccess, it has little to nothing to do with numbers. :twisted:
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Postby The Hunter » Sun Jan 04, 2004 11:48 am

The problem with maths is: they're numbers... Dry, dusty, boring numbers. I usually loose track whenever doing a calculation. "What the hell was I doing it for"? Too abstract.
But then physics, i was quite good at that, while physics is juat applied maths. When I know what the numbers stand for somehow it's easier. Especially when money is involved, maths is a lot easier. :D
No numbers... just money... Money is not a number, it's (a) value. which makes it interesting. 8)
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Postby Nick » Mon Jan 05, 2004 3:20 am

Those of us with businesses in Cantr really have to use math. I know that with one of my characters who owns a company, I have to make extensive formulas on the price of iron per gram, the price of certain things, profit ratios, et cetera. And I get a 50% in math....

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