Suicide button for not wanted characters?

[Armulus Satchula]

I would like to see a limit. Maybe 1 kill per 1 or 2 months. Large kill requests should still go through PD. Also, the suicide button shouldn't be instant. It should take 24 or 48 hours and then you have to type "KILL" or "DELETE" into a text box and hit submit. (As a confirmation)

[freiana]

I'd say that just one of those two is enough... Preferably the second. If people have personal issues which force them to kill of a larger amount of characters this should be possible, too, right?

[Mitch79]

I would like to see a limit. Maybe 1 kill per 1 or 2 months. Large kill requests should still go through PD. Also, the suicide button shouldn't be instant. It should take 24 or 48 hours and then you have to type "KILL" or "DELETE" into a text box and hit submit. (As a confirmation)

People should be able to kill off characters they no longer want to play. I do not see a need for a kill "limit" to be set one kill every 1 to 2 months. That to me, defeats the whole idea here. Players should not have to be forced to have charactrs in their list they no longer want. However, that having been said, I do think a 24 hour wait once you've decided to click on the kill button would not be a bad idea. Gives the player the time to work through the "are you sure you want to do this" question before finally being allowed to kill them off. But the player should have the right to kill characters off as they no longer want to play them.

[Armulus Satchula]

There shouldn't be a way for personal genocide. Find a reason to die. Get involved or cause some drama. Spice things up if you want to go. Commit a crime, you might just like it.

I agree there should be an all or no one rule concerning suicide commited by PD. I wasn't aware that PD would not allow requests if a person had a real life issue with the amount of characters they had. IE: Health, Life, Addiction.

[Mitch79]

There shouldn't be a way for personal genocide. Find a reason to die. Get involved or cause some drama. Spice things up if you want to go. Commit a crime, you might just like it.

Again a person should not be forced to keep a character they no longer want and I disagree with this statement. It forces a player to MOST of the time have their characters act out of character to what their charactrs would normally do in order to finally be able to get rid of the characters. A player should never have to change the personality and the way theircharacter is just to "spice things up" or get themselves killed. Players should have the option to play the character or get rid of them if they no longer want to play ESPECIALLY where a life situation has come up and they need to kill off several....and I strongly feel this. Players should be able to killoff the characters they create, when and if they no longer want to play them or no longer CAN play them

[the_antisocial_hermit]

There shouldn't be a way for personal genocide. Find a reason to die. Get involved or cause some drama. Spice things up if you want to go. Commit a crime, you might just like it.

Again a person should not be forced to keep a character they no longer want and I disagree with this statement. It forces a player to MOST of the time have their characters act out of character to what their charactrs would normally do in order to finally be able toget rid of the characters. Players should have the option to play the character or get rid of them if they no longer want to play ESPECIALLY in the situations where a lift situation has come up and they need to kill off several....and I strongly feel this. Players should be able to killoff the characters they create, when and if they no longer want to play them or no longer CAN play them

I've grown to agree with this, though in the past I was much less certain and thought it ought to be after a certain age.

I think giving a 24 or 48 hour wait period before the characters can be confirmed to die would be plenty. It gives people a chance to rethink it and play out some sort of proper end suited to the character other than starve, hit themselves or go crazy and force others to kill them.

[Doug R.]

@Addicted:

First, I want to be clear that the PD has never been involved in player request killings. That is strictly the domain of the GAB.

Second, I was the only GAB member that I am aware of that ever granted player request killings, and while I did it using a strict set of criteria, I did it unilaterally. If your request was denied, you were either turned down by someone else, or didn't fit my criteria.

Based on Echoman's reply, the GAB has since adopted a different method of handling these requests (denying them all). So, there is your consistent policy.

[SumBum]

There shouldn't be a way for personal genocide. Find a reason to die. Get involved or cause some drama. Spice things up if you want to go. Commit a crime, you might just like it.

This is very bad advice for several reasons. I agree with what Mitch said about it forcing a char to do something that clashes with their personality in an attempt to get killed, etc. Not to mention how it so horribly disrupts the other chars around them. It seriously pisses me off when my chars are put into bad situations and have to make decisions that are traumatizing to them simply because some player wants to be a douche or purposely get their char killed for them. Also, creating such disruptive "spiced up things" can tarnish the memory of a char for others. Players should have a way to give their chars a dignified death.

There definitely should be confirmation of the death after at least a 24hr wait. I don't think there should be a limit on how many you can kill within a period of time. I used to support the idea of only 30+ aged chars having the option, but it would prevent the disruptive suicidal newspawns if they could just be killed off instantly by the player. The char slot lock will hopefully be enough to slow them down from doing it too much....

[Black Canyon]

Hmm... this is a tough one.

On one hand, it's a game and everyone should have the right to do what they want with their own characters. After all, we're the gods and they are our lowly creations, right?

On the other hand, this is a game which depends heavily on the relationships formed with other characters. It's not like you can create a character who kills murlocs and talks to npc's all day. An effective character establishes relationships with others and sometimes these are highly emotional. So the decisions that you make with your creations impacts the playing experience of others.

I struggle with what to say here. I don't want to sound like I am admonishing anyone, because it isn't my right to do so. So I will just say this. If you're a player who creates characters who become emotionally entangled with the lives of other characters, please use the heart attacks with discretion.

[NancyLee]

[...]It gives people a chance to rethink it and play out some sort of proper end suited to the character other than starve, hit themselves [...]

For me that's the nub of the matter, the opportunity of roleplaying a decent ending. I didn't agree with a suicide button af first, so I think I understand Armulus too, but as months went by I gradually changed my opinion... I don't think that the ability of a "self-killing spree" prevents getting involved and spicing things up, no if you have a couple of days to do things properly, since in most cases you see chars just fade away and starve themselves in a silent sleep. Sometimes, just shooting or cutting yourself to dead is not even a little believable for your char, or you want to roleplay another kind of death. Or maybe you want to leave without hurting too much other characters (yeah, I know it sounds like a weird intertwining between real life and virtual life, but I am pretty sure you all understand).

Edit to add: (so much things going on as I was struggling with my english)

I used to support the idea of only 30+ aged chars having the option, but it would prevent the disruptive suicidal newspawns if they could just be killed off instantly by the player. The char slot lock will hopefully be enough to slow them down from doing it too much....

I suscribe to each word. It was the disruptive suicidal newspawns matter what most forced me to be against the instant kill button, but now... I don't think it would be that bad as long as the slots remain locked.

[Bowser]

They all die in the end so whats it matter. An instant click or a slow starving ignore. At least the heart attack frees the living and lets them move on. The sleeping hungry leave the rest of us with a tiny sliver of hope that usually fades in 30 days.

[Nathan89]

back in the day the mods killed chars if I asked at least. But that was years ago and I only did it once or twice. Though the logic is sound. At this point I am waiting for some chars to turn 24 so I can off them because they are utterly pointless. lot about spawning is dumb luck. Some just spawned im bad places. I am the type that love this game. Deeply and have for just about 7 years. But I wont RP a char if nothing interesting is happening. I would rather have 15 cool chars there 4. some people play them all and then complain it is not interesting.

Its Cantr..make the game interesting!

[Addicted]

The 'suicide buton' is an accepted suggestion already. My intent was not to reopen that for debate.

What I do want is a consistent policy until this button is implemented. The policy is:

The PD policy is still that players should handle character deaths in game, without any "divine intervention". It is possible now more than ever, just put a full blocking filter on your characters events, and it will never highlight again.

I can acept this if it does actually apply to all and not just chumpy me. Please, can I assume their will be no more PD or GAB deaths, and that if policy changes and it is granted, that I and anyone else with what they feel is a good enough reason, will also be considered?

Thanks, now reply and let's move on.

[Cdls]

Please, can I assume their will be no more PD or GAB deaths, and that if policy changes and it is granted, that I and anyone else with what they feel is a good enough reason, will also be considered?

Addicted, what you can assume is that GAB and the departments will do their jobs the way they are designed to do. If your requests are/were not accepted, then there is probably a reason for it, and bringing the complaint here and dragging it out is doing nothing but spamming this topic.

If you feel you have a valid concern, log into Cantr and use the "contact departments" link to contact the GAB via email and you can continue it there.

[Nathan89]

Or go nuts stab everyone and run on a road. Thats a sure bet. Oh sure your friends will be all upset but you are dead so who cares and it makes life more interesting. Or starve alone that takes what ten days ?