Pre made Characters

[Snickie]

Of, right, that…
-cough- I mean, Oh, right…

(That wasn't originally intentional.)

I was speaking of emotes up there, forgetting about actual speech because I'm super intelligent like that. Anauwys, emote misspellings I do correct, but my characters correct themselves usually when they "mispronounce" a word (unless it's part of their accent).
(*anyways, not anauwys)

[Marian]

Since players cope with ignorant characters who learn everything for the first time, along with the most common character that has all basic knowledge incorporated (talking, reading, social relations, etc) Why won't they do as much with backgrounded characters?

I think the issue is that, no matter how strange it may seem in real world terms, spawning is pretty much accepted as a biological fact of Cantreality. Just like people being able to work and see everything around them when they're asleep and being able live on 200g of potatoes a day and effortlessly know the precise weight of anything they might be holding or even just looking at.

And as far as backstories go, IMO they really do make a character either a liar or delusional, they literally didn't exist anywere in the game world before they spawned, and Cantr just doesn't have any vague hand-wavy villages for your char to have come from like it's some D&D campaign, there are only precise locations that they've either been to or they haven't. It may seem constricting in some ways, but personally I like playing in a world with solid mechanics...that's why I keep coming back here instead of being able to stay satisfied RPing in some freeform chatroom somewhere.

[Eleiris]

Mmm... That's a good point Marian, I thought of all that too. But I still have a problem with the language situtation because it affects me directly, it's the reason I started -and continue- playing this game. So I've got to figure out a way to make it work for me.

I was speaking of emotes up there, forgetting about actual speech because I'm super intelligent like that.

The case of misspelling the narrative section (**), I think in most cases it's best to let the mistake pass, if it's still intelligible.

[gejyspa]

Char1: "I've lived in this town for 20 years, my parents were brutally murdered by pirates when I was 6 and so I want to join the guard and blah blah blah"
Char2: Uh...dude I'm pretty sure I would've seen you around somewhere, also I've been here 20 years too and there's never been a pirate attack. Also, I just saw you spawn.'

or

Char1: "Greetings, everyone! I've just arrived from the neighboring village!"
Char2: "Uh, no. I just saw you spawn. Seriously, come on, I'm standing right here."

Not a huge deal, but I think most of my chars would just write them off as a liar or yet another delusional or insane person and try to avoid the subject...though I've had one or two that would probably keep asking them increasingly detailed questions about their past just to mess with them.

While I'll agree with you on situation 1, I'll dispute you on situation two until my dying day, or until they change the message from "you see a [man/woman] in their twenties who you haven't seen before" to "you see a [man/woman] in their twenties pop into existence in the shimmering air." I see plenty of people around in real life whom I haven't seen before, and never ONCE did I assume they didn't exist before that second.


There is absolutely NOTHING WRONG WITH BACKSTORIES that don't contradict established histories. Deal with it!

[Marian]

I see plenty of people around in real life whom I haven't seen before, and never ONCE did I assume they didn't exist before that second.

This is because in RL there are more than eight people in your town.

[Addicted]

I see plenty of people around in real life whom I haven't seen before, and never ONCE did I assume they didn't exist before that second.

Never assume, put ponder, yes. Plenty. They could be robots, aliens, all fiction made up in my mind, God's sense of humour or even a figment of my imagination? Maybe I'm not real? (yes, I know I read far too much Sci Fi)

There is absolutely NOTHING WRONG WITH BACKSTORIES that don't contradict established histories. Deal with it!

By putting your char in jail until you admit you are lying? Writing your char off as insane and treating him as such? Depends on the backstory, but most don't wash with me. Deal with it?

[Doug R.]

Well, the PD's been telling folks that backstories are for character development only, not for public expression. Cantr has a clear, recorded history that your newspawn has no place in since they didn't exist until a second ago. Any backstory is, by rule then, fictitious.

Telling them that you came from the last town over is a lie, because it can be proven as such. If you want to be believed, spawn and immediately leave. That will give your made up stories more weight in the next town.

[gejyspa]

Well, the PD's been telling folks that backstories are for character development only, not for public expression. Cantr has a clear, recorded history that your newspawn has no place in since they didn't exist until a second ago. Any backstory is, by rule then, fictitious.

Telling them that you came from the last town over is a lie, because it can be proven as such. If you want to be believed, spawn and immediately leave. That will give your made up stories more weight in the next town.

I'm sorry, I misspoke about situation 2. You are right-- "the next town over" is falsifiable, and therefore runs afoul of my qualifying clause of "...that don't contradict established histories". But "the next planet over", for example, or, " a town on the other side of the world that you've never heard of, and too bad for you that no one in your village has an absolute complete map of the entire world" would not be.

[mojomuppet]

You can play it how you want but if the town isn't buying it, then its YOU that has to deal with it.

[Snickie]

You can play it how you want but if the town isn't buying it, then its YOU that has to deal with it.

I know the feeling personally.
But I'm not going to reveal who and what and why.
Not until that character is dead and long forgotten, anyway.

[gejyspa]

Well, clearly, Mojo, that's the case.

And that's true in real life, too. That's why innocent people sometimes get executed.

My point was that, despite Doug's long-lived decrial of backstories, and most cantrians acceptance of the "popping in from thin air" theory, there is absolutely nothing written in DA RULEZ that says "you can't", and the description of someone who just spawned only says "... that you haven't seen before". (Kinda like, ya know, reading "Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a sabbath to the LORD your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your male or female servant, nor your animals, nor any foreigner residing in your towns. For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy" and then claim to obey that by resting on Sunday -- just saying. ( and like I've said before, non-Jews aren't obligated in this commandment anyway, but to SAY you are obeying it and not actually doing so....))

Let them martyr my character. My characters welcome it, because they know the truth, and the rest of the world is too blind to see what's in front of their very eyes, and are deluded into thinking a twenty year old pops into existence.

[mojomuppet]

Let them martyr my character. My characters welcome it, because they know the truth, and the rest of the world is too blind to see what's in front of their very eyes, and are deluded into thinking a twenty year old pops into existence.

They do in Cantr my friend. They do all day.

May I remind you that Cantr, however real it may seem to you, doesnt live by the same laws of nature that we do here on earth.

[gejyspa]

It has nothing to do with the laws of nature. It has to do with the laws of mathematics. Let me put to you, my friend "twenty years old" measured from... WHAT??

[gejyspa]

It has nothing to do with the laws of nature. It has to do with the laws of mathematics. Let me put to you, my friend: "twenty years old" measured from... WHAT??

[Marian]

Let them martyr my character. My characters welcome it, because they know the truth, and the rest of the world is too blind to see what's in front of their very eyes, and are deluded into thinking a twenty year old pops into existence.

Pfft. Such screwed up priorities. Clearly the outlook of an insane person.

And if your character has really been around for twenty years, then why is there nothing in their event log?