How to Win the Game

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Re: How to Win the Game

Postby kaloryfer » Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:45 pm

You win the game when you find long forgotten places and notes showing that there was life in Cantr. Being an archeologist is fun.
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Re: How to Win the Game

Postby Miri » Sun Aug 01, 2010 6:23 pm

kaloryfer wrote:You win the game when you find long forgotten places and notes showing that there was life in Cantr.

You win twice if they were written by your own long-dead-and-forgotten charries :mrgreen:
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Re: How to Win the Game

Postby Kelli » Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:19 pm

You win when someone is hell-bent on making you hit the x and you don't.
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Re: How to Win the Game

Postby Illidan » Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:30 pm

the same way someone win inside dwarf fortress: build a computer!

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Re: How to Win the Game

Postby Rusalka » Tue Aug 03, 2010 5:41 pm

I win the game, because when I returned after 1000 days, I still see things my chars changed in the world.
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Re: How to Win the Game

Postby SekoETC » Sat Aug 07, 2010 4:00 am

Doesn't it suck that some players seem to be constantly winning the game, even if their characters died they would still win the game constantly and always have things their own way? I don't know how it works but it happens. Maybe it takes a certain type of personality. I don't see myself as a winner no matter what my characters do, it's usually about luck rather than skill. Being the first one around and/or awake after someone croaked and dropped keys, or managing to break a lock on first attempt in a critical situation and stuff like that. They're just moments, not winning in life. Are you really a winner if you rebuild a town after everyone or at least the leader died, and keep it alive for decades, yet you have no certainty if it would last very long if your character kicked the bucket. I've done that on at least three different characters.
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Re: How to Win the Game

Postby Piscator » Sat Aug 07, 2010 8:50 am

You only win the game if you think that you win the game.
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Re: How to Win the Game

Postby kaloryfer » Sat Aug 07, 2010 12:25 pm

>Doesn't it suck that some players seem to be constantly winning the game, even if their characters died they would still win the game constantly

Because Cantr is fun ! And having fun is winning !


>and always have things their own way?

My characters don't. But they win when they achieve their goals on their own, against all odds. Most of them are loners, so there is not much going to interrupt them. And even if I spawn in a large city, there is always a possibility to work as anonymous worker, and then leave.

>I don't see myself as a winner no matter what my characters do, it's usually about luck rather than skill. Being the first one around and/or awake after someone croaked and dropped keys, or managing to break a lock on first attempt in a critical situation and stuff like that.

What do you think about doing what you aimed to do, though?


>Are you really a winner if you rebuild a town after everyone or at least the leader died, and keep it alive for decades, yet you have no certainty if it would last very long if your character kicked the bucket.

One shouldn't take responsibility for others. You've taught them how to fish, so it's their time to use that knowledge. If you took care of town, and managed to create some kind of leadership, then what's the problem? Good leaders know how to divide work, so they aren't that needed, after all. So even in case of accident, there is no great chaos. At least not a big one :)
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Re: How to Win the Game

Postby Ronja Rotschopf » Sat Aug 07, 2010 1:34 pm

I win the game when one of my most boring characters becomes one of my most interesting characters (when patience pays off)
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Re: How to Win the Game

Postby Rumaan » Sat Aug 07, 2010 3:46 pm

Piscator wrote:You only win the game if you think that you win the game.


True, very true.
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Re: How to Win the Game

Postby Miri » Sat Aug 07, 2010 5:46 pm

I think I first won the game... when I started playing Cantr. And ever since that day I'm winning all the time! :D
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Re: How to Win the Game

Postby Joshuamonkey » Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:03 am

I lost the game.

I won the game when we killed Nick Blackrock.
I won the game after two (not same time period) "evil" hard to kill people and a revenge seeking old man set up base in my town and eventually die, leaving everything to me. No casualties.
I won when I came to Kwor as a visitor and within the next couple years started leading it.
I won the game over time as my town in the mountains became successful and grew in population.
I win the game when I hear about past characters or other characters through a different character.
I won the game when I beat every character in a language group in age by a couple decades. :D

I lost the game when Brian Treblig died.
I lost the game when my new raker was stolen and I ended up as a life time prisoner to the Blackrocks.
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Re: How to Win the Game

Postby Diego » Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:35 am

kaloryfer wrote:>And even if I spawn in a large city, there is always a possibility to work as anonymous worker, and then leave.

I love doing this. Develop their personality through trivial (or not so trivial) events in their early years, as they work in a developed town with great daily pays and the possibility to equip yourself quite handsomely, then hit the road and make a life for yourself.
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Re: How to Win the Game

Postby Bowser » Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:50 pm

SekoETC wrote:I don't see myself as a winner no matter what my characters do, it's usually about luck rather than skill.


I understand your point Seko but my whole idea behind starting this topic was to tell people I believe writing the story IS the game. Whether you die, conquer the world, farm carrots all day, or lose the war, it's the story that counts. Their are no winners or losers from my point of view.

I am enjoying how this thread has developed and people like to post examples of how they "won".
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Re: How to Win the Game

Postby Chroma Key » Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:58 pm

My daughter's comment: "Mummy, is having fun, winning?" She thinks so. I agree.
I won the game when one of my chars walked for years with nothing and recently came back home with a lot of resources and is now able to put an end to the primitive era they have been living in. One little step for the Cantr world, but for him, it is a huge achievement.
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