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Postby Phalynx » Wed Dec 26, 2007 7:56 pm

DylPickle wrote:
The whole point is to play the game like you don't know, until your char learns. Anyone who doesn't is a damn cheater and should be flogged. I can think of about ten names, but I won't be more of a dick.


Totally, but it's not new players who if they break rules do it out of ignorance we need to worry about!
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Postby sanchez » Wed Dec 26, 2007 11:27 pm

Quit casting aspersions when you do not have all the facts. The veiled accusations and hand-waving are doing nobody any good here. PD is a thankless job, for volunteers. And we get it right most of the time. You don't have to play, Phalynx.
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Postby T-shirt » Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:36 am

sanchez wrote:Quit casting aspersions when you do not have all the facts. The veiled accusations and hand-waving are doing nobody any good here.

Then please keep everyone updated. If the rumours are true, do tell us. If they might be (partially) true, do tell us. If they are probably false, do tell us. If they're definitely false, do tell us. But it's been about a month now without any information.
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Postby sanchez » Thu Dec 27, 2007 1:13 am

GAB/GAC investigate all accusations against PD members. So I have no idea how the case is progressing other than that it is.
But for my opinion, the rumours are as all rumours tend to be, which is greatly exaggerated, without context, and spun to support an agenda which is not concerned with the truth. I don't know why people forget that most staff are players too and it's in our interest also for the game to be fair for everyone. This issue will be resolved like all complaints are against the volunteer staff which is to say in private among the people actually involved.
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Postby Bowser » Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:35 am

In my many, many years of playing this game, I have had 4 or so characters spawned in the same area. The PD has always been very fair with me. I have been guilty of grouping and collaboration. In each instance, they have contacted me, shown me the error in my ways, and given advice on hw to separeate my characters.

To call me a cheater is something that might have fit my actions, but they have always helped me to resolve the situation privately and I am still here to play. My earliest characters have been alive since the year 200 and I am still going strong. I trust the PD and know that they will do whats right. Like any group, a bad apple may fall. I do not know the circumstance that is in issue, but it will be dealt with and we do not need to know the outcome.

I am very grateful when I had slipped up, that my mis-doings were not made public and I could continue my membership in this free game. I am also hoping that anyone on the staff who may have done anything that was not on the up-and-up would be given the same treatment. Handle it fairly and keep the conflict confidential.
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Postby MakeBeliever » Thu Dec 27, 2007 1:42 pm

A simple and very easy seperation of characters by a staff player would have kept me in the game here. Not once have I revealled here who the player was, but I certainly gave many patient weeks of time for a seperation to be brought about before finally losing faith and patience and chucking the towel in on playing.
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Postby Redbeard » Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:06 pm

I am ashamed to say I fall into the same grouping as Bowser. Perhaps not playing as long, but with the same experiences and making the same mistakes. As he said, the PD has always dealt with me fairly and allowed me to fix the mistakes. I have no doubt the problem here would have been or is being addressed appropriately.

It is a shame to see a long time player leave due to the process used to address these kind of issues. I cannot understand why the involved parties could not be kept informed that the issue was being investigated or resolved so they would not feel it had been set aside. I know that even a decision that I disagreed with would make me feel better than not knowing if anything was being done.

I also respect that everyone involved is a volunteer and therefore cannot be commited to responding in a timely manner. Let us all hope we can learn from this and make things a bit better for everyone involved.
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Postby Sekar » Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:25 pm

MakeBeliever wrote:A simple and very easy seperation of characters by a staff player would have kept me in the game here. Not once have I revealled here who the player was, but I certainly gave many patient weeks of time for a seperation to be brought about before finally losing faith and patience and chucking the towel in on playing.


Apparently you havn't given up on Cantr completely if you continue to post in these forums.
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Postby sanchez » Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:30 pm

The problem here is that just because you suspect something and make a complaint (which staff always appreciates and follows up on) doesn't mean that you get to decide the outcome of a case, nor even be informed of one. Just like Bowser and Redbeard said, a lot of care, thought, and time goes into cases and decisions, and it should not be shared publicly. Not everybody will understand nor appreciate the decisions, but not everybody will see the whole situation. MB, it's just not your choice here how things turn out, but please trust GAB/GAC members to do their best.
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Postby Slyder_Glyder_Ryder_etc » Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:18 pm

Wasn't this thread about fighting skills or something?
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Postby T-shirt » Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:20 pm

Redbeard wrote:I am ashamed to say I fall into the same grouping as Bowser.

I'm not. Of course has (nearly) any older player used his characters to overcome the slowness of the game and to progress. I'm not ashamed of what my characters achieved that way. Too bad they're dead now.
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Postby Crosshair » Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:56 pm

I once hit one guy with two of my charries, and they told me off, and i overreacted and quit. *shrug* Then i came back and aint heard from 'em since.

Or pretty muc any staff member... do ProgD actually do work now?
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Postby Zanthos » Fri Dec 28, 2007 1:40 am

Well, hopefully my actions will spur interest :twisted:
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Postby N-Aldwitch » Fri Dec 28, 2007 7:12 am

Crosshair wrote:I once hit one guy with two of my charries, and they told me off, and i overreacted and quit. *shrug* Then i came back and aint heard from 'em since.

Or pretty muc any staff member... do ProgD actually do work now?


I once had 9 characters in one location.. some town with about 9 people in it. Anyway, I killed all the characters there with one character standing. Didn't get into any trouble for it.
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Postby Phalynx » Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:02 am

N-Aldwitch wrote:
Crosshair wrote:I once hit one guy with two of my charries, and they told me off, and i overreacted and quit. *shrug* Then i came back and aint heard from 'em since.

Or pretty muc any staff member... do ProgD actually do work now?


I once had 9 characters in one location.. some town with about 9 people in it. Anyway, I killed all the characters there with one character standing. Didn't get into any trouble for it.

Sometimes you can be such a dick!

Why brag about stff like that, and of course you have spouted so much bull before I am disinclined to beleive you...
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