The Dead Character Thread

[Marian]

However, it turns out the last pirate warning he received was legit and he was killed rather instantly and unsatisfactorily. On his spawnday, no less. Go figure.

I will be posting a more complete story on the Cantr Stories platform once the matter of his death is truly settled.

Sorry to hear that, and if there was cheating involved I hope they're dealt with. Not the first time I've heard of an incident like that. There are definitely some really shitty, disrespectful people running around in this game, ruining it for others. People who kill without RP shouldn't even be allowed to play, IMO. They're not here for the same reason the rest of us are.

[hyrle]

I agree completely, but the rules say I am not allowed to comment on items currently under PD review, so I won't comment. I definitely agree this kind of behavior goes completely against the spirit of a roleplaying game, but it is up to the PD to determine whether any rules were broken. My character is dead either way, and I've spawned a new, very interesting character in his slot - so one story ends and another begins. I prefer not to dwell on the loss but rather glory in what comes here-after. Maybe someone will glimpse the new story and fathom enjoyment from it.

Besides - I think I can now be officially considered a Cantr vetern, as this is my first character killed without RP. I was surprised it took 2 years to happen to me.

[Wolfsong]

While losing a character like that does suck, it probably wasn't breaking any rules. I once had a character randomly dragged into a locked building and murdered by two people who never spoke, not even to each other, over the course of a couple days. I brought it up with PD thinking it was a single guy multiplaying, but was told it was perfectly legit, and it probably was. People don't need reasons, they just need to be shown to not be breaking the rules or abusing mechanics.

[Snickie]

Besides - I think I can now be officially considered a Cantr vetern, as this is my first character killed without RP. I was surprised it took 2 years to happen to me.

By that definition, I'm not a Cantr veteran because I've never had a character killed without RP. (I don't count all the ones that died because I got too lazy/bored to keep roleplaying them which led to them starving to death.) The one that was legitimately killed, people roleplayed it and it was actually kind of tragic in a way.

[hyrle]

I would have preferred that, Snickie. Every character's story has to end sometime and even if it ends violently, it can at least have a roleplayed ending rather than --- boom, over.

[Snickie]

In some ways I agree.

But in some ways, playing your character for so long that you become completely indifferent to them and don't care anymore causing them to fall into a deep sleep because you just can't be bothered to play them anymore, you start wishing someone would come kill them senselessly without roleplay so that you don't have to see their name light up anymore.

There's a quote from the Batman movies: You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain.
I'm going to modify that.

Either your character dies loved and loving, or they live long enough to become apathetic and sleepy.

[hyrle]

In some ways I agree.

But in some ways, playing your character for so long that you become completely indifferent to them and don't care anymore causing them to fall into a deep sleep because you just can't be bothered to play them anymore, you start wishing someone would come kill them senselessly without roleplay so that you don't have to see their name light up anymore.

There's a quote from the Batman movies: You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain.
I'm going to modify that.

Either your character dies loved and loving, or they live long enough to become apathetic and sleepy.

I have a character working on a business that will help alleviate that problem. I expect that people will react in a variety of different ways to his offer.

[Marian]

But in some ways, playing your character for so long that you become completely indifferent to them and don't care anymore causing them to fall into a deep sleep because you just can't be bothered to play them anymore, you start wishing someone would come kill them senselessly without roleplay so that you don't have to see their name light up anymore.

You do know you can request the PD to kill them off, right? Or just do it yourself if they're old enough. Or kill them the old fashioned way if not. Or just turn off notifications for that character.

There's plenty of ways not to have to see their name light up if you're really at the point you can't stand them anymore, is what I'm saying.

[hyrle]

I did what Marian suggested when I decided I was done with Sahaj Dramian. The idea sounded fun, but in the end it just wasn't as fun as I thought it'd be. But it's a long process to kill a character through starvation. I didn't have a new idea for the character slot, though, so I decided not to rush the matter or have the PD kill him. I eventually came up with an idea for a character and replaced Sahaj.

Luckily, once Milo was killed, I had another character idea I had wanted to try anyhow, so it worked out. Had it been my choice, however, I'd have killed a different character.

[*Wiro]

Part of the deal when killing a character through PD is that you can't make a new character for a while, so that wouldn't have worked in your case anyway. It's a bit vague because it says "may be", so I guess it depends on the situation.

Any player wishing to have a character removed may send a written request to the Players Department, using the link 'Contact Cantr II Departments' top left of the Players Page.

We will take a minimum of 24 hours to consider any requests.

Though we evaluate all requests on a case by case basis, there are some very important guidelines:
- All reasons for removing characters must be OOC. We will not be supplying a tool to aid anyone's roleplay.
- Further, your account's new character creation ability may be blocked for a time following deletions.
- Multiple requests from the same player within the same six month period will be automatically rejected.
- Any public discussion about yours or anyones else's character deletion will carry an automatic rejection.
- Disruptive rp will carry an automatic rejection. The character's behavior should not be altered, just as it is not when an account idles out, or a player unsubscribes.
- Young characters will not be considered for deletion but for exceptional circumstances of spawning.

[Kyriel]

There's times I wish it were easier to indicate that you wouldn't mind a character being killed in an IC manner. It's not like it would be more OOC than having to go to great lengths to starve a character.

[Alladinsane]

Part of the deal when killing a character through PD is that you can't make a new character for a while, so that wouldn't have worked in your case anyway. It's a bit vague because it says "may be", so I guess it depends on the situation.

Any player wishing to have a character removed may send a written request to the Players Department, using the link 'Contact Cantr II Departments' top left of the Players Page.

We will take a minimum of 24 hours to consider any requests.

Though we evaluate all requests on a case by case basis, there are some very important guidelines:
- All reasons for removing characters must be OOC. We will not be supplying a tool to aid anyone's roleplay.
- Further, your account's new character creation ability may be blocked for a time following deletions.
- Multiple requests from the same player within the same six month period will be automatically rejected.
- Any public discussion about yours or anyones else's character deletion will carry an automatic rejection.
- Disruptive rp will carry an automatic rejection. The character's behavior should not be altered, just as it is not when an account idles out, or a player unsubscribes.
- Young characters will not be considered for deletion but for exceptional circumstances of spawning.

The vagueness gives us a chance to handle special situations. But our usual standard is generally 6 months.

This came about because when we first offered the chance, some players wanted chars killed off for reasons that became a drain upon PD's time and resources that could be used to ensure that cases preserving the fairness of the game towards others were addressed. So rather than banish the practice completely (which was done for a while) a compromise was devised that would still honor these requests and the service was resumed. But they needed to be well considered actions on the part of the players asking. 6 months seems to be enough of a 'detriment' that people will at least consider playing their characters out, or find other ways to attain their destined fates.

If anyone is interested in helping us and the rest of the players (you!) out, there has been a call made for new applicants to PD. I would warn that the training process is rigorous and the standards of conduct for our members are much higher because of some of the abilities that exist. Few truly get to peek behind the curtain and fewer still are invited. If you are interested in being one of the 'few', pop us an application.

Be well

[hyrle]

I was debating whether and when to announce this one (given the ramifications of his death), but I decided it's time. Mykola Adami - skirt-chaser, cad, and all around weird creepy town leader-type guy. (He was one of three town leaders in his town.) He was a character that it seemed people either loved or hated. There really wasn't much in between with him.

He had an odd scent fetish, loved to seduce the ladies, and had a thing for having multiple lovers - but was also a fair, honest and responsive businessman. He was not the kind of town leader to setup projects and expect people to do them, though... he was all about encouraging entrepreneurship. He was intensely loyal to his friends, intensely judgmental to those he didn't like, and - despite being polyamorous - he put his heart and soul into his relationships. The people he loved, he loved completely... and each loss was a major blow to him emotionally. He had and lost four girlfriends and a daughter, all to death - usually to sleep death. He would visit their bodies in the church... and there were far more bodies of those he loved and lost than there were people in town by the end.

In the end, when his final lover became sleepy - he began to be extremely depressed, detached from his young town members and from life in general. He went through the motions, but was very sad. Some characters got to see that sadness, and I'm sorry if it bummed any of you players out. It kind of bummed me out to RP it. But when his final lover (Tammi - his partner and fellow Sentinel) - that shattered him. Even an act of unconditional love and caring by a young town member wasn't quite enough to cure the pain (though it was appreciated.) He died of a broken heart at age 60 on 4825.

[Genie]

Wish he could seek for some spritiual cure from one of his old friends or go to a travel by himself. My chars will miss Mykola. Why do you kill the chars I like? There are some which I wouldn't mind so much.

[*Wiro]

Never hit on any of my characters. RIP.