Things that annoy or puzzle you about Cantr

[Swingerzetta]

But, wouldn't it get really annoying if people DID write everything they did out in detail? Seems like occasionally glossing over a process is better for all involved. (I'm sure not going to be step-by-stepping ANYTHING while on my tablet on a 20 minute break at work, for example)

[Marian]

But, wouldn't it get really annoying if people DID write everything they did out in detail? Seems like occasionally glossing over a process is better for all involved. (I'm sure not going to be step-by-stepping ANYTHING while on my tablet on a 20 minute break at work, for example)

But if you could tag an outfit (or a tool or weapon or vehicle...) with dyes and other materials then you'd be free to RP as much or as little as you felt like. You wouldn't have anything to prove or anyone to convince of anything, anyone could see that you'd done your part.

[Swingerzetta]

But, wouldn't it get really annoying if people DID write everything they did out in detail? Seems like occasionally glossing over a process is better for all involved. (I'm sure not going to be step-by-stepping ANYTHING while on my tablet on a 20 minute break at work, for example)

But if you could tag an outfit (or a tool or weapon or vehicle...) with dyes and other materials then you'd be free to RP as much or as little as you felt like. You wouldn't have anything to prove or anyone to convince of anything, anyone could see that you'd done your part.

Yes, that's true! It would be a good system.

[computaertist]

Can we all please agree that what's really annoying us is the lack of a system to legally add things to other things?

People acting like one is there when it's not should be reported. I must have just not seen them, so I don't know how else to take these comments except as possibly applying to me, knowing how creative I get with my descriptions. I'll just stop taking them that way, as I'm sure now I should have done from the beginning.

[Kyriel]

On the one hand, I can understand not wanting people to claim their fur bikini is made of gold.

On the other hand, I'm not too fond of seeing detailed roleplay about dyes that don't exist in the game, in part because if the game had actual mechanics for it, it would have resources for it, gatherable plants that could be processed and grown, etc.

[Marian]

On the one hand, I can understand not wanting people to claim their fur bikini is made of gold.

On the other hand, I'm not too fond of seeing detailed roleplay about dyes that don't exist in the game, in part because if the game had actual mechanics for it, it would have resources for it, gatherable plants that could be processed and grown, etc.

More natural shades like green, yellow, brown, and simple dyes made from berries or even blue from cobalt are one thing, but personally I draw the line at really bright modern, store bought looking stuff.

[Kyriel]

By "store bought" I assume you mean synthetic dyes. The technology level may be strange, but it seems doubly strange that the assumption of many players seems to always tend toward a low tech level. Synthetic dyes predate the use of cars and radios. If they existed in the game, they would certainly require a town with advanced refining capabilities.

[Marian]

The technology level has always been strange, but it does lean toward the low tech. The vast majority of people are using bone and stone tools, fighting with swords, and hunting or gathering materials to make the things they need by hand.

And if I were to look around any place and see people dressed in animal skins squatting next to a dung-fueled cooking fire, 'high tech' or 'modern' would not be the first thing to pop into my mind.

And when they do use something like a drill or a radio or a car (which aren't exactly cutting edge technology either, get back to me when they have satellites ), it's usually something built by a forgotten past generation.

[Kyriel]

Well, that's kind of my point. If the plants existed in the game, people would be dyeing clothing with things like henna and woad, at the lower tech level. And if it were included, places that are already refining aluminium and building their own vans might have the machines required to make synthetic dyes. It's not necessarily an either/or thing, I'm just saying that it's kind of a weird thing to protest when the mechanics don't exist in the game at all at this point, and other techniques of the same tech level or higher already exist in the game. If a character living in an advanced industrial city wants to use "bright, modern colors", sure, why not? That just might be more questionable if they're living in a mud hut and making hide pants with a bone needle.

[Slowness_Incarnate]

Hey if people can spawn with hot pink/neon green/electric blue hair, why can't they have undies in the same colors?

[Friar Briar]

Hey if people can spawn with hot pink/neon green/electric blue hair, why can't they have undies in the same colors?

If I wanted neon green undies, this is what I would do IG.

I would spawn in the swamp, make a pair of undies (preferably hide), go down to the swamp water, wait for the algae to start decaying, dip the undies in, and now, voila! I have neon, green undies.

Similarly, if I wanted florescent, pink shoes, I would spawn by the seaside, wait for a red tide/toxic red algae bloom, go down to the water, put my shoes into the decaying, red algae, and again, voila! I now have florescent, pink shoes.

Sure, I'll stink to high heaven, but that's the price I would pay for fashion, people!!

[Marian]

I would spawn in the swamp, make a pair of undies (preferably hide), go down to the swamp water, wait for the algae to start decaying, dip the undies in, and now, voila! I have neon, green undies.

Similarly, if I wanted florescent, pink shoes, I would spawn by the seaside, wait for a red tide/toxic red algae bloom, go down to the water, put my shoes into the decaying, red algae, and again, voila! I now have florescent, pink shoes.

Sure, I'll stink to high heaven, but that's the price I would pay for fashion, people!!

See, now this is something I'd want to see RPed. Bonus points if you dip in while wearing the undies and come out with neon-green legs. Who even needs clothes? It'll start a new fad.

But here I feel like being annoyed about a new thing now: Why oh why do some many towns believe workers and traders should make less, the better they are at their job? Awkward workers are always getting paid more than expert ones for the same amount of work, and people gathering by hand somehow deserve to get better deals than those who took the time and effort to make tools? How does this make any sense?

[*Wiro]

I set a (somewhat OOC) standard for myself never to accept untooled rates. I simply refuse to encourage people to be lazy. This always starts an interesting discussion. "But we only got these at 50 grams a day." I ain't give a damn. This laziness wasn't half as common several years ago before resources started piling up.

In [cut] famous armory, the payments are based on how long an average person takes (i.e. the shown time) so everyone gets the same payment. I've always thought this is great, because you get more money over time doing what you're good at. I like to see planning rewarded and will always go out of my way to punish the lazy.

[Marian]

I like to see planning rewarded and will always go out of my way to punish the lazy.

This is a good philosophy.

And you're right about [cut] , I wish more towns would follow their example. Paying based on the individual's hours worked instead of going by the project means having to keep track of them too, it's a finicky pain in the butt.

[ObsessedWithCats]

For organised trading I've always seen rates like [cut], fixed for everyone, so you're better off doing something you're good at. I've never seen skill-dependent rates O_o Where things are small-scale/primitive enough for bartering things like weight in boats, alternative sources, trader/resident relationships and the actual existence or otherwise of machines at appropriate location factor in rather than gatherer skill. I'll quite happily buy oil at slightly below tooled rates from a friendly trader when the nearest source is years out in the middle of nowhere and doesn't have a drill anyway :3

Actually come to think of it there was one place I remember that paid by the hour. I have nothing nice to say about that place