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Postby TheTheorist » Fri Aug 13, 2004 2:09 pm

Its all role play at the end of the day. If a 14 year old is pretending to be an adult they should be mature enough to do so...

But bare in mind the average mental age of all adults is 15....!

Out of my chars-

- is a nomad and never settled anywhere long enough to meet anyone.
- is too scared of the world to be close to anyone.
- is too involved with his purpose and good friend to think of anything else.
- is a social outcast
- has recently become rich and isn't bothered at the moment
- is too involved in the clan
- is a bitch, she has an inventory full of gifts and wears none of them.
- is a hopeless romantic trapped in a barbarians body.
- is travelling on roads far too much
- is 22 going on 62
- doesn't know if he's happy being a man.
- is seen as far too stupid by nearly everyone
- is lost in the mountains slowly starving to death
- is too busy looking into the future to think about it
- has been on a boat with someone for a long time and feels for them but doesn't know how to express it (and is making a fool of herself in the process)

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Postby Anthony Roberts » Fri Aug 13, 2004 2:26 pm

Black Canyon wrote::lol: Ok ok.........perhaps I am making too big of a deal out of it.


No, I personally don't think you are. There are children that play this game, sure (I guess I can call 13-17 year olds children... hahaha *Snicker*) - but some of them, based on religion or upbringing and morales (And maybe not even children, could be adults too) feel that some situations could be too much for them.

That's half the reason why I try to learn who I'm role playing with, so I can talk to them OOCly with an instant messaging program, then outright ask them "Are you alright if my character did this-and-this to yours? Do I have your consent?" - Because, some people don't agree with some things happening...

Point being: You need to always think of the other persons attitude. Sure, it's a game and it's your characters playing them out - However, there are some topics that shouldn't be touched. An example would be a sexual relationship, when the person on the other end is 13 years old - COPPA would probably get really pissed at Cantr for letting such a thing happen.

Your concerns are well justified. I'm sure others will have their own opinions. Such as "Characters should be played, regardless of the players personal opinion. It's not the player that's the character, the character is their own self controlled by the character". And, in essence, I agree with this view as well. But as I said, some lines shouldn't be crossed.

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Postby joshua johnson » Fri Aug 13, 2004 6:07 pm

I both agree and disagree with Anthony.

I have a handful of characters in relationships and somewhat recently two of them got involved in "sensitive interactions" as you put it. Up until this point, I never really considered the possible age of the other player, (or their gender for that matter).

While I don't want to know who plays the other character, it might be wise to know thier actual age, or at least the age they reveal themselves to be, to set appropriate limits on the boundaries of the role playing. I know it is totally anonymous, but non-cantr players might not see it the same way at all (like this COPPA, whoever that is). Or, better yet, try explaining it to the father of a 14 year old, and see if it meets with approval. A role played hug and kiss might make it past the father check, but some things probably would not.

I disagree with the instant messaging thing that Anthony does, because to me, that is making a direct connection with the player of the other character, outside the game. It reduces the anonymity of the game. I would guess that "instant messaging permission from a 14 year old player to have your character do something intimate to or with their character" would also fail the father check, probably more so than the role playing might. I would hold this to be true even if you did not know the actual age of the other character's player.
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Postby Anthony Roberts » Fri Aug 13, 2004 6:16 pm

Well, even though the IMing might be out of bounds, I guess, I'd really like to know the age of the person I'm getting my character involved with, so that I can rule out actions based on that. Like, I'm an adult, and I don't want to be making sexual comments to a child, if you get my drift. Be it character to character, the "law" won't take that into considderation :P

And, COPPA is some child internet privacy agency of sorts, you see it when you sign up for things. "Are you over the age of 13?", or something to that extent. If you're not over 13, you have to have your parents sign COPPA forms alloweing your child to access/join that site.
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Postby joshua johnson » Fri Aug 13, 2004 7:27 pm

Anthony,

I think I am with you most of the way :D . I agree with you on finding out the age.

Really our only point of difference is that I would prefer to ask as an OOC comment in game, to maintain the anonymity as much as possible. I was just thinking that the IM breaks down a bit of the anonymity.

It is probably better to know than not know, either through in game OOC or from IM, I would just like to know anonamously.
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Postby Oasis » Fri Aug 13, 2004 7:33 pm

It is acceptable, if you are concerned about this, to write to the players department to ask if the player behind the character you want to rp with is of age or not. No other information would be given out, except whether or not that player is older or younger than 18 (according to what they have indicated when they applied).
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Postby Anthony Roberts » Fri Aug 13, 2004 7:42 pm

IMing is just my way of doing things, I keep in contact with a lot of players, and it's just easier to ask them that way - if I already know them - aside from asking in game or bothering the players department. Which, obviously, are your options as so stated.
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Postby Revanael » Fri Aug 13, 2004 8:31 pm

One of mine likes someone a bit, but isn't certain.
One is following someone olderaround, for want of a companion, but it's not love or anything. At least, she was til she lost him...
One is in a relationship.
One has a traveling companion; it could perhaps become more.
One admires an older woman, but he's not doing much about it yet.
One is dead.
One has been traveling with someone, and considered flirting with them, but decided she probably wouldnt like it much.
The other 6 are single, and haven't really found anyone they're interested in.
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Postby Sparkle » Fri Aug 13, 2004 11:03 pm

First, I think it should be more on the parent. They should follow there childs behaviors online and if they see that a game like this is to advanced for their child then they should not let them play.

I totally understand not wanting to play a role like that with a child but with as many people playing the game with relationships it is very time consuming to try and figure out who is a child and who's not when your character is ready to be involved with another character on that level. Yes, it is a scary thought.

I wish there was some kind of way of knowing this without it being to much trouble or time consuming.

Second.....my characters updated relationships. We have another similar topic to this one but I don't feel like looking for it right now.

he is to busy for a relationship and if he ever has one she will have to be willing to move as much as he does

she is in a relationship now, I never thought she would be because she is so busy.

he isn't in one and don't want to be in one, he feels woman are a plague and are just in the way of what men wants to do to the world. I mean since you don't need them to reproduce or anything he feels they're just a good waste of space.

she uses men for her own enjoyment, to busy for a serious relationship, just casual sex every now and then.

she is in a serious relationship.

he is to busy trying to become great in his business

she is still curious and may be bi

he was in a relationship and she broke his heart, if he see's her with someone else he will kill both of them. :twisted: But she left and it seems she will never come back. I think I know who she is with......anyways.

That's the latest on my characters. :)
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Postby Cheshierekat » Sat Aug 14, 2004 12:18 am

Anthony Roberts wrote:... 1 has been killed by their love one (Serious! She's a mad woman!)



She's not mad! :shock:
She's just really, really evil. :D

(I am assuming that you are talking about R & R)
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Postby Sniper » Sat Aug 14, 2004 2:24 am

sparkle wrote:

he was in a relationship and she broke his heart, if he see's her with someone else he will kill both of them. :twisted: But she left and it seems she will never come back. I think I know who she is with......anyways.



Did this guy cry at weddings?
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Postby Sparkle » Sat Aug 14, 2004 2:49 am

Sniper wrote:
sparkle wrote:

he was in a relationship and she broke his heart, if he see's her with someone else he will kill both of them. :twisted: But she left and it seems she will never come back. I think I know who she is with......anyways.



Did this guy cry at weddings?


Yup, that's him alright! :D He loved weddings and was just about to star in his own when she broke his heart. He threw the rings and vowed to never love another.
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Postby Sniper » Sat Aug 14, 2004 3:04 am

Sorry Hank, but she was too much woman for you. :wink: I just couldn't let you do that to yourself.

And you are way too good of a person to kill over that, it's not in your makeup.
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Postby Sparkle » Sat Aug 14, 2004 3:32 am

8) I'm Henry and if she would have stuck around she would have noticed that I was probably to much man for her. I would have li.......anyway you must not know me very well. My character won't let himself be made a fool of. So if you know him and your on his bad list then I wouldn't go near him if I were you. :twisted:
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Postby Snake_byte » Sat Aug 14, 2004 4:54 am

1-has lost one love and is now loosing another.
2-has had a one night stand.

And my others.... have nothing.
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