The dreadfully slow longships

[The Industriallist]

Yes, but there are no modern ships in cantr, and won't be for an extremely long time I hope.
Even your site listed a crew of 200. That is at least twice the population of the K-D-S region, I think. And I'm pretty sure there were galleons into the 18th century, at least. Probably larger than the earlier ones.

[ephiroll]

No, the Spanish galleons where the largest built and wooden ships have a greater size restraint on them because of the weaker materials they're made out of then what any boat with iron or steel has. And the ships such as the darter, raker, soarer, etc are much more akin to modern racing yachts then any historically correct ship and should be considered much more advanced then a simple longboat. After all, a longboat isn't much more then an oversized rowboat.

[The Industriallist]

I'm not on longboats anymore, but I have a site reporting a 190 foot long, 51 food wide third-rate ship of the line. That's a 74-gun late 18th century ship. at about the same time ships of significantly over 100 guns were built... I'm trying to find their dimensions online, but haven't yet. I'm sure they went over 200 feet. That's a lot more than your 150 foot long, 38 foot wide galleon.

[Pirog]

After all, a longboat isn't much more then an oversized rowboat.

You could think that, but the longboats were far more advanced than that...they were really excellent ships, and became the module for many later ship designs.

[Anthony Roberts]

I'm not on longboats anymore, but I have a site reporting a 190 foot long, 51 food wide third-rate ship of the line. That's a 74-gun late 18th century ship. at about the same time ships of significantly over 100 guns were built... I'm trying to find their dimensions online, but haven't yet. I'm sure they went over 200 feet. That's a lot more than your 150 foot long, 38 foot wide galleon.

Notice the keywords "third-rate ship of the line" - Ie: The lowest (Or highest, I don't remember) class of the Ship-Of-The-Line module. It may be a Galleon, but it came after steamships and such. I'm pretty sure anyway...

But why fight over the size? You don't have one yet, you have no idea what the size actually is.

I can point out, though, that the site supplied is the same site I used to get information on the Galleon. Ie: I used the Spanish Galleon template.

[ephiroll]

A "ship of the line" isn't a galleon, it's a warship (galleon's were cargo ships) and the largest was closer to 300 feet, but they were quickly made obsolete by the ironclad ships and dreadnaughts introduced in the later half of the 1800's.

http://www.historychannel.com/perl/prin ... ?ID=113189

And another thing, galleons weren't used past the 16th century, they were replaced by smaller, faster, more agile ships.

http://www.historychannel.com/perl/prin ... l?ID=88171

Here's a basic history of ship types.

http://www.historychannel.com/perl/prin ... ?ID=113185

Longboats aren't really even placed in the same catagory as ships, they're more similar to smaller boats such as canoe's and kayak's because longboats (galleys) only have one open deck without any enclosed area.

http://www.historychannel.com/perl/prin ... l?ID=76069

[west]

Hm...I'm not sure I'm a fan of Anthony's godlike powers in creating new vehicles.

I mean, sure, that's awesome, Anthony, (please don't kill me) but did you talk to any of the rest of the GAC? Or Jos, even?

I hope so.

[Anthony Roberts]

No, West; but I talked to TJ about it. He's the Resources Department head now, and he has the power to accept or decline a proposal, just like that *Snaps his fingers* - He's who we go through.

I could say, that if the GAC doesn't like something, it's TJ's fault for the bad judgement call - But that's untrue. Resource Department members have to think hard if this change is benifitial, or if it will be unfair and unneeded. So, if my idea doesn't get approved by me, it's thrown out. If it does, then it goes to TJ, and he can give his input.

For large changes, an example, weapons changing, we'd put the idea up to debate by the members, so everybody can give their 2 cents. But there mere adding of vehicles, is not really a "change", but more an addition. If something does end up being in the wrong, I of course would take the blame.

[west]

All right.

Fair enough.