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Postby nitefyre » Thu Jun 10, 2004 7:42 pm

NiTeFyRe wrote: name's adjusted....

jeslange wrote:The account of Alicia Scarlet's treason is a good example of how someone can quote exactly what was said without the cheesy "You say" crap. It went like: Alicia Scarlet said aloud: "blah blah blah." Silverfoot said privately to Maily Yumm: "blah blah blah." Joram Traske entered Steward's Cottage and said aloud: "blah blah blah."

It only takes a moment to make the events more RP friendly.


Alright then. =)) Yeah I noticed that form. Unfortunately the copy I found fell into my character's recycling envelope bin and is no longer to be found.
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Postby g1asswa1ker » Sat Jun 12, 2004 12:16 pm

So how would prove it. Really how would? C/Ping is like the closest thing I can see for people who need to answer to those type of questions. Because it's a loaded question.
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Postby jeslange » Sat Jun 12, 2004 6:54 pm

The event that shows that your project has finished changes nothing except for your own char. Other chars have to determine in their own minds whether or not your char has a right to what your char picked up, or if your char is a lying thief. They still have to make that same determination even if your char states from the events page. The only "evidence" that can really be confirmed is what everyone saw, which is your char picking things up.

Your char "proves" it by being convincing, and hopes that those with uh-tho-ri-tuh are well convinced :) . I've never yet had a situation where my chars could not successfully convince others, and I've never used the exact events as "evidence."

IMO, authoritative people in a well organized town should know who has rights to resources before it gets to the point when someone is picking them up. It requires little effort, and lets those with authority have a bit of fun when someone is bold enough to claim something they really didn't work for. If your char is in a position of authority, why would he or she be making an ass of himself or herself by obviously not knowing what's going on in his or her town?

By the same token, if a char doesn't take any of a few simple possible measures to protect his or her property "rights" regarding abandoned projects, then perhaps becoming a victim of the system will do alot to teach the char to do so in the future.
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Postby g1asswa1ker » Sat Jun 12, 2004 7:08 pm

The exact responce I expected. So proof is in the eye of the beholder and the authorities. I can just as much steal from good hard working people. Being an authority by simple not believing them. So weather I use the C/P method or not is moot, right?
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Postby jeslange » Sat Jun 12, 2004 7:18 pm

c/ping is moot. If the authorities are able to not acknowledge a char's work on an abandoned project, then the working char hasn't protected himself or herself in advance...
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Postby g1asswa1ker » Sat Jun 12, 2004 7:30 pm

Ok nothing left to argue about my concern was the C/Ping nothing more.
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Postby Sparkle » Sat Jun 12, 2004 11:05 pm

jeslange wrote:c/ping is moot. If the authorities are able to not acknowledge a char's work on an abandoned project, then the working char hasn't protected himself or herself in advance...


Not just abandoned projects get left on the ground. If your holding to much or if your doing a very large project that you can't hold your project will end up on the ground in which case I will do what ever I have to, to prove that it belongs to me because I did not do all that work for nothing. And I would fight until the death any stupid authority figure who choses not to except my form of proof. :evil:
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Postby jeslange » Sun Jun 13, 2004 4:05 am

I'm aware that materials will fall to the ground if a char can't hold the weight. A char could legitimately convince others of ownership in those situations as easily as in abandoned project situations.
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Postby Psycho Pixie » Sun Jun 13, 2004 4:33 am

I just tell the public as a whole that I finished so and such abandoned project and am now picking up those items.

simple, easy, to the point ,and fine for RP.

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Postby Lone Wolf » Sun Jun 13, 2004 4:39 am

Normaly I just pick it up and say something like "ah I must have dropped these" Rping it. If proof is asked for, then I can do the paste, and copy privatly. I don't like it, but it is about the only way to prove it. On the other hand, none of my char's have been asked for proof because I announce when working on an abandond project, telling people it may fall to the ground "I have clumbsy hands". If I'm holding too much I work it out to either store it or drop what is not of use to my char.
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Postby Pirog » Mon Jun 14, 2004 2:34 pm

Yeah...I also hate the "copy and pasters"...
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Postby glitterdown » Sun Jun 27, 2004 5:35 am

I think the whole process of "owning" resources on the ground is silly. If you're in charge, get a storage room.

If someone takes your resources (which stinks) ask for them back, but frankly, if you want to be sure you get your resources, don't try and finish other people's projects in the first place.

It's all so very silly.
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Postby kronos » Sun Jun 27, 2004 6:49 am

then you get a crap load of unfinished projects that looks silly and the activity page takes ages to load.
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Postby glitterdown » Sun Jun 27, 2004 6:53 am

Then your goal is to clean up the activity page and make it easier to load, and you're not interested in the resources anyway. And as i've said, you should able to pick up your resources off the ground, because the headsmen shouldn't have a wealth of resources sitting there to get everyone confused anyway.

1. Community storage goes into a store-room.
2. you get your resources, because people stop making inane rules, and forcing people to prove their work with c/p.
3. if you're in an area with inane rules, the activity page takes a while to load, so people get frustrated and leave anyway. (bad leadership = lost followers).
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Postby kronos » Sun Jun 27, 2004 7:02 am

clearing the activites page resourses are good becasue some are at like 70% when you start them
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