The possibility of spawning as someone's child?

[EchoMan]

Babies make awkward simmerrs. No thanks.

(This is my personal opinion, and doesn't necessarily reflect GAB's opinion on the matter)

[Otherside]

It would be the last nail in the Cantr coffin for me.

[Bmot]

It would be the last nail in the Cantr coffin for me.

That's a rather strong opinion... Can you explain more?

[Otherside]

It would be the last nail in the Cantr coffin for me.

That's a rather strong opinion... Can you explain more?

<grump>
Sure... I'm aware that it opens up a new world of relationships and everything else(?), or could possibly prevent the ridiculously fast growing / beyond the other relations control / be my brother/sister/mom/dad crap that goes on across Cantr and Treefeather (take offence). But I just hate it. I hate the cutesy cuddly be my ickle friend, I'm needy bollocks and this will just create a shit load more of it.

Families are hard work, and a lot of us use Cantr to get away from all that crap, and RP with other adults, without the stresses that go with running a family/daily lives. I have to put up with needy people day in, day out, at work and home. Do I want to log in to Cantr and see more? Do I heck. If you want to do it, do as you do now, use your brain and RP it. Spawning as a child, realising how cripplingly crap it is and then leaving your account will devastate players and couples. So no.. No, no and a thousand more no's from me.
</grump>

[kicking jay]

It would be the last nail in the Cantr coffin for me.

That's a rather strong opinion... Can you explain more? :)

<grump>
Sure... I'm aware that it opens up a new world of relationships and everything else(?), or could possibly prevent the ridiculously fast growing / beyond the other relations control / be my brother/sister/mom/dad crap that goes on across Cantr and Treefeather (take offence). But I just hate it. I hate the cutesy cuddly be my ickle friend, I'm needy bollocks and this will just create a shit load more of it.

Families are hard work, and a lot of us use Cantr to get away from all that crap, and RP with other adults, without the stresses that go with running a family/daily lives. I have to put up with needy people day in, day out, at work and home. Do I want to log in to Cantr and see more? Do I heck. If you want to do it, do as you do now, use your brain and RP it. Spawning as a child, realising how cripplingly crap it is and then leaving your account will devastate players and couples. So no.. No, no and a thousand more no's from me.
</grump>

+1

If it's ever implemented, it'll have to be very, very well thought out to avoid changing the tone of Cantr even more towards the attention-seekers.

( of course, being a parent - a breeder - is an optional choice, right? Meaning that you'd never have to have kids if you didn't want them? Sooo.... )

[ObsessedWithCats]

Might get some more variation between towns in that case though, with some allowing one or the other expansion method only and some allowing either.

[BosBaBe]

I agree with the whole attention seeking thing, and a LOT of the child characters I've seen are just weird as f***. Acting all cute and adorable, being fussed over by their parents, meanwhile they're sleeping around doing things no child would ever do. The men who start relationships with these kids? SHAME ON YOU! >:C How dare you get caught up in their webs!

But I don't think they should spoil the fun for what could be good rp and meaningful relationships. Kids are a responsibility and can be whinny, sure, but that doesn't mean they aren't a joy to those that can actually handle the responsibility of it.

The only thing I agree with is that babies can be awkward simmers, and when the player makes a child character and gives up... man, it's hard. I may be giving my character away, but their daughter had a heart attack, the one I mentioned before. It broke them, and I cried for quite some time over it. Still can't find the strength to get back into playing them, I just don't know where to start...

But if we have some good players who could rp it well, and not give up, I think I could enjoy it.

On another note, I support it because DAYUM, that would sure as hell stop characters from sleeping around, with male characters taking just about any slutty pathetic goddess he can find before finding another. Because BABIES. Maybe that's why there is some opposition to it. Don't want to get some cantr woman preggars, and then you have to slave away in game for child support for the woman you were going to dump/never speak to again anyways. I think I'm sadistic enough to do that to someone. If it's just the woman who decides if she wants to press that button for baby spawning, I'd press it to see the whole thing unravel. Could be interesting for rp, and lead to some very dysfunctional characters/families.
So evil...*giggles*

[Snickie]

I think characters that have lots of explicit sex should be homing beacons for newspawns and babies. Right there in the room or on the ship.

On a boat or in the room of a brothel somewhere:
1234-5: *hot and heavy session, all the nasties are out, fade to black would be all over this series if these people were fade-to-black-ers*
1234-6: You notice a man in his twenties whom you haven't seen before.
1234-6: a woman in her forties says: "S^*%, where'd he come from?! *she covers herself*"
1234-6: a man in his fifties says: "Ah, let him join in if he wants."
1234-6: a man in his twenties says: "Um, okay! *joins in*
1234-7: *hot and heavy threesome nastiness, and not a "*fade to black*" in sight*
1235-0.02: You notice a man in his twenties whom you haven't seen before.
1235-0.04: You notice a woman in his twenties whom you haven't seen before.
1235-0.04: You notice a man in his twenties whom you haven't seen before.
1235-0.04: You notice a baby boy whom you haven't seen before.
1235-0.05: You notice a baby girl whom you haven't seen before.
1235-0.11: You notice a man in his twenties whom you haven't seen before.
1235-0.13: You notice a man in his twenties whom you haven't seen before.
1235-1.02: a man in his fifties says: "O____O"

[*Wiro]

omg it would be so easy to make slaves yes.

[BosBaBe]

I think characters that have lots of explicit sex should be homing beacons for newspawns and babies. Right there in the room or on the ship.

On a boat or in the room of a brothel somewhere:
1234-5: *hot and heavy session, all the nasties are out, fade to black would be all over this series if these people were fade-to-black-ers*
1234-6: You notice a man in his twenties whom you haven't seen before.
1234-6: a woman in her forties says: "S^*%, where'd he come from?! *she covers herself*"
1234-6: a man in his fifties says: "Ah, let him join in if he wants."
1234-6: a man in his twenties says: "Um, okay! *joins in*
1234-7: *hot and heavy threesome nastiness, and not a "*fade to black*" in sight*
1235-0.02: You notice a man in his twenties whom you haven't seen before.
1235-0.04: You notice a woman in his twenties whom you haven't seen before.
1235-0.04: You notice a man in his twenties whom you haven't seen before.
1235-0.04: You notice a baby boy whom you haven't seen before.
1235-0.05: You notice a baby girl whom you haven't seen before.
1235-0.11: You notice a man in his twenties whom you haven't seen before.
1235-0.13: You notice a man in his twenties whom you haven't seen before.
1235-1.02: a man in his fifties says: "O____O"

Yes, this, this! To me it's punishment for the infidelity and the wanton sex just happening everywhere. Maybe not so quick as that, and it shouldn't spawn full 20 year olds, but some babies, people will think twice before begging for sex rp with whoever they can get it with.

[Cdls]

Yes, this, this! To me it's punishment for the infidelity and the wanton sex just happening everywhere. Maybe not so quick as that, and it shouldn't spawn full 20 year olds, but some babies, people will think twice before begging for sex rp with whoever they can get it with.

Wrong. Some people will just use them as props for further enjoyment.

And double wrong...imagine if YOU were one of those poor newspawns/babies?

[Otherside]

Wrong. Some people will just use them as props for further enjoyment.

And double wrong...imagine if YOU were one of those poor newspawns/babies?

I can't believe how flippantly that was just said.

For this reason alone, bin it.

[Cdls]

For this reason alone, bin it.

And...that was the point.

[BosBaBe]

Yes, this, this! To me it's punishment for the infidelity and the wanton sex just happening everywhere. Maybe not so quick as that, and it shouldn't spawn full 20 year olds, but some babies, people will think twice before begging for sex rp with whoever they can get it with.

Wrong. Some people will just use them as props for further enjoyment.

And double wrong...imagine if YOU were one of those poor newspawns/babies?

Sure, but the thing is nothing is ever perfect. I wouldn't mind it, it gives a chance to rp the not so perfect family, and then you end up with the dysfunctional, messed up adults. And I thought that was what we wanted, no more of the twisted constantly happy people, the mary sues, the john does.

So, yeah, shame for the poor kid that spawns in that situation and they don't like it, but I think it should be an opportunity for some good rp, something meaningful and that isn't just so bloody happy. It can't be used as an excuse NOT to have kids implemented, because everyone is so content begging for slavery, murder, torture, and other acts of cruelty. But the moment we talk about a kid being born to people like that, we become appalled? It's a part of every day life, my parents were divorced, many others had divorced parents, you get on with it. My half sister grew up in an ATROCIOUS environment, and even though it gives her problems today, mental and emotional difficulties to the point that she'll lash out at me for getting a better childhood, I still admire her so much. Why? Because she's better off, she knows life isn't full of sunshine and roses, she works her ass off, never expecting anything for free, never expecting life to be fair to her. And she loves my dad despite the environment he put her through. He was young and stupid, and she's forgiven him.

So my point is don't complain about the Mary Sues/John Does and the sun beams and rainbows they spew everywhere, but then freak out over what could happen to kids who spawn to bad parents. It makes no sense.

[Cdls]

I think you misunderstand the point.

My comments were not in any way, shape, or form an indication of dismissal against the idea of having "children" introduced into the game. My comment was directed at using them as punishment for those who are primarily engaged in sexual encounters within the game.

So my point is don't complain about the Mary Sues/John Does and the sun beams and rainbows they spew everywhere, but then freak out over what could happen to kids who spawn to bad parents. It makes no sense.

Where was there any complaining or freaking out?