Time passing - daylight and seasons - compass rose

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Re: Time passing - daylight and seasons - compass rose

Postby Tiamo » Sun Sep 30, 2012 5:30 pm

The shape of the Cantr-world obviously is not a globe, so anything that has to do with astronomy (and weather, seasons, tides, horizons, gravity, ...) must be different from rl.
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Re: Time passing - daylight and seasons - compass rose

Postby Faith » Sun Sep 30, 2012 5:40 pm

It's not a globe? Wel...It's round and...I'm going to shut up before break some law xD
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Re: Time passing - daylight and seasons - compass rose

Postby Henkie » Sun Sep 30, 2012 5:42 pm

I always take a Nero-view... The sun revolves around my char and the cantrian world it is in :)
0:00:00-1:35:59 = Morning
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Re: Time passing - daylight and seasons - compass rose

Postby freiana » Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:28 pm

Faith wrote:It's not a globe? Wel...It's round and...I'm going to shut up before break some law xD


Isn't it sort of like a cilinder? I have no idea what happens when you keep sailing North... Does it go on forever?
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Re: Time passing - daylight and seasons - compass rose

Postby Henkie » Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:54 pm

I think it's donut-shaped *he nods matter-of-factly*
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Re: Time passing - daylight and seasons - compass rose

Postby guilletierno » Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:58 pm

freiana wrote:
Faith wrote:It's not a globe? Wel...It's round and...I'm going to shut up before break some law xD


Isn't it sort of like a cilinder? I have no idea what happens when you keep sailing North... Does it go on forever?


map is warped east-west and north-south. you can travel to north and do a "world round", coming from the south. cantr world is like a donut.
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Re: Time passing - daylight and seasons - compass rose

Postby freiana » Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:02 pm

0.0 So... on some places, if you look up, you will see another part of the world?!?
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Re: Time passing - daylight and seasons - compass rose

Postby guilletierno » Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:05 pm

freiana wrote:0.0 So... on some places, if you look up, you will see another part of the world?!?


but if you reach that point you'll be too busy dealing with a kraken
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Re: Time passing - daylight and seasons - compass rose

Postby Faith » Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:03 pm

There were some spanish cartographers in cantr that studied what happens if you sail always in the same direction.
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Re: Time passing - daylight and seasons - compass rose

Postby Alladinsane » Mon Oct 01, 2012 2:58 am

I sometimes rp non-detrimental weather...stars etc. In a very tropical and sea borne area my char and his wife liked to observe the sunset/rise from a mountaintop with a level of stratus clouds below the height of the mountain-top giving an illusion the the peak was a solitary island above a foamy white sea. It was their island, maybe the only place in the world with people at all. It seemed romantic at the time and later events made it more so imo.

One of the things I was always taught about good writing was to create the environment and then place your characters within it... I am not saying that I am good at following that advice often enough, but small things like the rainbow, gust of wind and rain fall did add a few interesting elements to the rp. With so many talented writers in this community, I am surprised when sometimes its purely dialogue or brief emotes added. Granted, the pot is calling the kettle 'made of stone' here.

I have heard the donut analogy also and think its conceptually accurate. So to answer Friena's question about whether you would be able to see land if you look up, I would say that only if you were holding a telescope; and also if there are no layers of stratus above you.

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Re: Time passing - daylight and seasons - compass rose

Postby Tiamo » Mon Oct 01, 2012 7:14 am

Henkie wrote:I think it's donut-shaped *he nods matter-of-factly*

Topologically it is, but characters will probably experience it as totally flat, 2-dimensional and limited in size (we experience our universe as endless in 3D).
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Re: Time passing - daylight and seasons - compass rose

Postby Doug R. » Mon Oct 01, 2012 2:26 pm

freiana wrote:0.0 So... on some places, if you look up, you will see another part of the world?!?


Cantr's shape can't exist in the real world unless you fold the world in half before connecting the ends. Otherwise, the inner ring would over-lap itself, and you'd have to horribly stretch the surface area to fit. It has to be a toilet paper tube.

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And yes, that is an actual world map of Cantr. Just pretend it's round.

To answer your question, yes, you could look up and see another part of the world, unless it's so far away that it's obscured by atmosphere. So, clearly Cantr is, in reality, a 2D, one sided magic looping square.
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Re: Time passing - daylight and seasons - compass rose

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Re: Time passing - daylight and seasons - compass rose

Postby Rugila » Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:06 am

If sail to east enough, can i see over the edge of the world?
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Re: Time passing - daylight and seasons - compass rose

Postby guilletierno » Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:41 am

Rugila wrote:If sail to east enough, can i see over the edge of the world?



no, you can't
cantr map is like the old asteroids game.

http://www.play.vg/games/4-Asteroids.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asteroids_%28video_game%29
El vino viene cantando desde la tierra,
baja del cerro hecho agua,
y en una raíz se queda,
y sube por una camino que se llama enredadera,
parra, parrón, vid, mil hojas, verde sombra o como quieras.

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