pronouns when emoting for character who are trans?

[Xander]

I've considered playing a trans character before, but I haven't done so yet. I don't think I've met a trans character in game.

[SekoETC]

I played a trans character once and holy crap how that ticked people off! Some homosexuals might have hard time in Cantr but it's nothing compared to how people react to a man in a woman's body. He got murdered eventually because the people who killed him thought that someone who doesn't stay true to their spawning sex couldn't possibly represent a town with a long history.

[Mitch79]

I played a trans character once and holy crap how that ticked people off! Some homosexuals might have hard time in Cantr but it's nothing compared to how people react to a man in a woman's body. He got murdered eventually because the people who killed him thought that someone who doesn't stay true to their spawning sex couldn't possibly represent a town with a long history.

Always wondered what happened to him.

[Uma]

I would refer to some one, or emote as the game given biological sex. If I offend some one addressing them this way, I'd switch to their preferred if the character i'm rping isn't just mean


that's not meant to sound insensitive to trans folk, the game just doesn't have transition options, or means to actually disguise it. I think it should. who cares if surgery exists. the game is arbitrary with it's tech level. let people go get cosmetic surgery

[SekoETC]

I don't think Cantr is ready for surgery. My character had a billy club that was roleplayed to be a wooden artificial penis. He also tied his breasts flat with hemp cloth and wore men's clothing. I think that's as far as you can go within the technology level. There's no anesthesia, so gender reassignment surgery would be pretty much torture, and what about the risk of infection?

[Money]

I don't think Cantr is ready for surgery. My character had a billy club that was roleplayed to be a wooden artificial penis. He also tied his breasts flat with hemp cloth and wore men's clothing. I think that's as far as you can go within the technology level. There's no anesthesia, so gender reassignment surgery would be pretty much torture, and what about the risk of infection?

People rp ridiculous things all the time and the healing mechanic is pretty broken. If someone rped that they performed GRS, hitting themselves in the process to simulate the damage done to the body, and then just healed themselves with healing food, it would be pretty consistent with how a fair portion of the player base treats violence.

edit: to be clear I ment that people rp things that do not really make sense within the mechanics of the game, rping a trans person is not ridiculous and kudos for the attempt at such a challenging role. Apologies if I offended anyone.

[Auryn]

It's not the surgery that prevents a good demonstration of sex transition, in fact, plenty of trans individuals opt out of surgery completely. It's actually hormone therapy that would make a true transition impossible.

As for rping a trans character, it is insulting to not refer to them as their gender identity, but that makes things awkward as far as passing goes.. The best way to handle that would be to refer to them as their spawn sex until they are able to "pass" for their gender. Binding, packing, wearing passable breasts, raising/lowering their voice can all be rp'ed in game. It's possible to pass in RL for a lot of people with just these basic steps.

[Money]

It's not the surgery that prevents a good demonstration of sex transition, in fact, plenty of trans individuals opt out of surgery completely. It's actually hormone therapy that would make a true transition impossible.

I did forget about the hormonal component to GR, though a trans person in Cantr could still resort to radical cosmetic surgery for the sake of appearances.

The best way to handle that would be to refer to them as their spawn sex until they are able to "pass" for their gender. Binding, packing, wearing passable breasts, raising/lowering their voice can all be rp'ed in game.

I think it depends more on the personality of the character. Some trans individuals in RL will refer to themselves by the gender of their choice the moment they come to the realization they are trans.

[Uma]

none of their RP efforts will change "a 30 year old woman" as the default names.

if people were identified by their garb, hair length, combination of size and demeanor, it would be more plausible. a person heavily garbed just looks like their garb from a distance


you see a "thin person in a longcoat".
you see a "person in a silk dress?"

it's so much longer than a 20 yea old

I'm not sure what other way you could convey a name without mentioning gender, and the game won't let us clearly disguise it right now,

[RedQueen.exe]

none of their RP efforts will change "a 30 year old woman" as the default names.

if people were identified by their garb, hair length, combination of size and demeanor, it would be more plausible. a person heavily garbed just looks like their garb from a distance


you see a "thin person in a longcoat".
you see a "person in a silk dress?"

it's so much longer than a 20 yea old

I'm not sure what other way you could convey a name without mentioning gender, and the game won't let us clearly disguise it right now,

I would SO much prefer this, given that it would actually allow some trans characters to pass, make androgynous characters possible, and open things up a little to playing genderqueer chars.

[Uma]

just opening your default descriptor up as a means of expressing your character would be amazing. You wouldn't want to have it edited constantly but at first glance, a number 20 year old women may be a goat herder, a naked person, a refined lady, or a grease covered mechanic. 20 year old woman doesn't define that well.

[RedQueen.exe]

just opening your default descriptor up as a means of expressing your character would be amazing. You wouldn't want to have it edited constantly but at first glance, a number 20 year old women may be a goat herder, a naked person, a refined lady, or a grease covered mechanic. 20 year old woman doesn't define that well.

Exactly. Not to mention there are some cis women (cis = not trans, basically) with short hair that get read as men, and some cis men with long hair that get read as women if they've shaved recently, etc. 1. It is unreasonable to think cantrarians have some sort of magic radar to know what is under someone's clothes. 2. Depending on how you interpret it, and on the individual, some trans players may find it a little disturbing just to play chars under such a system - someone wouldn't be able to look at a person and know whether they're a woman or not, much the same way you couldn't look at a stranger and tell whether or not they like bacon. You can't get into a person's head in that way. It can either feel like a form of mind reading, or a denial of the fact that trans people determine their own identity, no one else gets to determine that for them, and they don't require anyone else's "approval" of their identity.

[Snickie]

1. It is unreasonable to think cantrarians have some sort of magic radar to know what is under someone's clothes.

Why not?They seem to have a magic radar that tells them what decade age you are and if you're older than that other guy who's in the same age decade.

[Uma]

It's just one of those existing features of the game, and by virtue, the world. people also walk around with an extensive knowledge of how to build everything in the world. You know how to use every machine. A simple slap and you know your fight skills. you get better at shooting a bow by hitting some one with a pillow. you know cardinal directions innately.

[hyrle]

This thread is inspiring me to have the character that I was thinking of making trans finally go trans. It's going to be... fabulous!