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Postby joo » Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:44 pm

*Wiro wrote:
playerslayer666 wrote:
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playerslayer666 wrote:(B) your character is the type of character who rapes other characters.


*after arriving, he sneakily walks up to the woman in her twenties on the potato harvester, roughly pushes her off and rapes her quickly*? Unless someone does something ridiculous like that, I don't see how a character is supposed to rape someone without the consent of the other player.


what if they are locked up and the person RP's shoving them against a wall and starts raping them? then waits for a reaction assuming they will play along, and they don't want to.....


Then that player is being just plain retarded and should be warned if not banned. >.>

I fail to see what's bannable in that situation, assuming the other player hasn't had the opportunity to respond yet and hasn't told the player that they don't want to do it.
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Postby Severine » Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:49 pm

A lot of my characters are involved in relationships. Sex happens, it's a natural part of life. Now, do I want to participate in their sex life? No, not really. So we simply fade to black and it's understood. I have a boyfriend that I love dearly, and have no interest in having cyber sex. But I understand that it's a part of the characters lives, just as it's a part of human life.
Rape? That's a whole different thing...It's a horrible experience that I wouldn't wish on anyone, in game or in real life. But again, it happens, like it or not. None of my characters have come anywhere close to being raped and I'm glad for it. But if they do, I will kindly ask the rapist to fade to black or just assume that it happened. And if they don't want to cooperate, then I go have a conversation with the staff.
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Postby joo » Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:52 pm

TBH, if I was going to rape someone IG (I've never done so before), I probably wouldn't focus on the sexual details. I might even leave some room for interpretation so somebody who isn't in the same mindset could disregard it.
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Postby *Wiro » Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:53 pm

joo wrote:
*Wiro wrote:
playerslayer666 wrote:
*Wiro wrote:
playerslayer666 wrote:(B) your character is the type of character who rapes other characters.


*after arriving, he sneakily walks up to the woman in her twenties on the potato harvester, roughly pushes her off and rapes her quickly*? Unless someone does something ridiculous like that, I don't see how a character is supposed to rape someone without the consent of the other player.


what if they are locked up and the person RP's shoving them against a wall and starts raping them? then waits for a reaction assuming they will play along, and they don't want to.....


Then that player is being just plain retarded and should be warned if not banned. >.>

I fail to see what's bannable in that situation, assuming the other player hasn't had the opportunity to respond yet and hasn't told the player that they don't want to do it.


They haven't even been given the chance to respond, and that's really something important before you go stick your thing down there in their youknowwhat.
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Postby Slowness_Incarnate » Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:57 pm

If they are not mature enough to do so, then I don't think they should be playing Cantr, because scenarios like that occur and if they will take offense...do not play the game or ignore the scenario.
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Postby Debsy » Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:59 pm

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They haven't even been given the chance to respond, and that's really something important before you go stick your thing down there in their youknowwhat.


That made me giggle, Wiro. :lol:
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Postby BarbaricAvatar » Sat Jul 18, 2009 8:19 pm

playerslayer666 wrote:unless i am misunderstanding things PD is aparently having an issue with figuring out what to do about players who don't want to get sexually involved IG.....


I love the way that people imagine-up things that PD are apparently having problems with. Shoot your messenger, he's crap.
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Postby Dudel » Sat Jul 18, 2009 8:50 pm

BarbaricAvatar wrote:
playerslayer666 wrote:unless i am misunderstanding things PD is aparently having an issue with figuring out what to do about players who don't want to get sexually involved IG.....


I love the way that people imagine-up things that PD are apparently having problems with. Shoot your messenger, he's crap.


I was about to say, "I didn't know this was a "problem" in game, at all."

IC and OOC I have heard of VERY FEW, if any, type of situations like that. I know of one possible person who should have their testies removed because they, as a player, force things on others in this manner but that is ONE. Not to mention unless OTHERS say something about the offending person, NOTHING will get done.

If YOU'VE an issue, REPORT IT! I ain't hard, honestly. It may not be a CRB but post in the CRB thread that you need to talk with a member OR contact a PD member directly, until then IGNORE THE CHARACTER that is having the "problem".

Once you get contact explain your problem to the member and copy-paste whats going on. They will then explain to the other party whats about.

This is all if you can't (((OOC: I'm not going to RP this, end of story!))) or they continue anyway.

The issue is raising a stick about it. When you bring notice to a problem like this it GETS WORSE!

I know Cantr ain't puppies and rainbows but some of us just don't want to deal with "that", even in game.
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Postby SekoETC » Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:38 pm

I assume it (the assumption that PD has a problem) may have been based on the possibility of people overhearing sex emotes with the new system.

As for some people not even wanting to be asked OOC, that's why it would be good to have a flagging system.

If one has a character that kidnaps and tries to rape people at random, one might argue that it's a CRB not to try kidnapping someone if you know their player won't accept the possibility of rape happening, but I wouldn't want to waste my time trying to interact with someone who assumes their character is physically and mentally invincible. Rape is not just about intercourse, it's about inflicting fear and pain. If the victim doesn't express fear and pain but remains sarcastic and undefeated, the situation will be unsatisfactory to the rapist whether or not intercourse was emoted. The physical part is very minor compared to the psychological aspects.

Also it's unflattering to the player of the rapist if it's clear that the player of the victim assumes they are just a troll, forcing things on other players for their own enjoyment when the character might in fact have a long in-game history that explains why they turned into a rapist. The victim's player just assumes that the other character is just a mask for his player, without its own personality, history, feelings and thoughts. Sure there are some players who don't understand the difference between a character and a player, but that doesn't mean everybody is like that.

No character is physically invincible. They have a health bar, and they turn weak when they are wounded. This is apparent from the fact that they can be dragged easier and hit for less damage when they are wounded. Thus even if someone was physically strong and able to fight back when they were initially kidnapped, the mechanics of the game state that they become weak after being hit successfully. Thus it's unlikely that a person in such weakened state could fight back a rapist, unless they do something like showing a thumb in his eye which would have to be emoted. It's also unlikely that a person in such a state could prevent themselves from being tied up or having one's limbs amputated, after which they would be helpless. Unless one assumes that Cantrians are some sort of amorphous blobs. It's good to say you don't want to know the details if you don't (or emoting in a very undetailed manner might also get the message through) but acting like your character is invulnerable is poor playing in my opinion.
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Postby *Wiro » Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:41 pm

I totally agree. (:
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Postby Sunni Daez » Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:40 pm

15454 wrote:Two characters don't need to have sexual relations to show how much they are in love with each other. I agree with Sunni, I didn't sign up to have sex chats here and there which is probably one of the main reasons why my characters never really loved anyone. I only have one that loves someone and I will tell everyone he and his wife do not have sex but they do love each other very much and can do other things other than that to show how much they care for one another.

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Postby Ryaga » Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:22 pm

3shyof30rats wrote:
Slowness_Incarnate wrote:We should all be adult enough mentally to type this : ((OOC: Hello, this scenario is too explicit or sexual for my liking, please discontinue this scene or I suggest that we can assume it 'happened' and not roleplay the details. Thank you.))


Agreed.
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Postby Cogliostro » Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:01 am

There should just be a small disclaimer: "Cantr is freeform text roleplay, not moderated. If you encounter something that makes you uncomfortable as a player, let the other player know you're not comfortable with it."

There we go, everyone can then play whichever way they like to.
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Postby Piscator » Sun Jul 19, 2009 1:51 am

And it doesn't even explicitly mention sex. :wink:
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Postby *Wiro » Sun Jul 19, 2009 1:59 am

Piscator wrote:And it doesn't even explicitly mention sex. :wink:


That was the only complaint against such a message, right? :) So then it could be added somewhere I suppose.
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