Overhearing whispers, your opinion

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Chance to overhear whispers...

...is good as it is.
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27%
...should be higher than 2% per person.
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19%
...should be lower in high-pop locations.
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6%
...should be lower in general.
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8%
...should not have been implemented at all.
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40%
 
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Postby rconley » Fri Jul 17, 2009 5:15 am

amika-babilfrenzo wrote:
Evelyn wrote:I don´t want to see it in action. I definitely don´t like it...

How I can make my secret conspiracies, and still working on my outdoor projects. Being inside a room? Such a waste of time.

How did I made my masterly assault to a ship to kill a guy that was always bothering my partner and me? with 3 days of stress and PRIVATE MESSAGES.

Whispers had served me a lot of lots, I know how and when I have to use it, so I will support Private Messages always

For the privacy of roleplayed conspiracies!


You could write notes if you don't want conspiracies be overheard.


And now rather than page after page of whispers, we can have pages of note passing instead.
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Postby SekoETC » Fri Jul 17, 2009 5:19 am

...But then we know they have something to hide.
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Postby cantrlady » Fri Jul 17, 2009 5:20 am

It has livened up the roleplaying - especially when one is overheard which I have already witnessed.
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Postby Litchin_flip » Fri Jul 17, 2009 5:36 am

It does make things a little more interesting.
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Postby CantrFreak » Fri Jul 17, 2009 5:44 am

I haven't seen it yet, but it certainly could liven up things if conversation's are overheard. x]
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Postby rconley » Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:07 am

SekoETC wrote:...But then we know they have something to hide.


Not necessarily.
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Postby Litchin_flip » Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:18 am

It would just take more planning to make it look as if they aren't going to plan something. Giving a whole new aspect to betrayal.
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Postby snm2001 » Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:27 am

I have one character that over heard three already in the span of probably 20 whispers
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Re: Overhearing whispers, your opinion

Postby Mars » Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:25 am

SekoETC wrote:For each listener there is a 2% chance that the "You hear X talking to Y" will be replaced by "You overhear X say to Y:" which reveals the private message.


1. In Vlotryan we have ~175 characters, and more then 100 in central location.
Each whisper is heard from 2 persons!

2. Cantr II is an online role-playing game without throwed the story. If I playing the old character, who have very high morality-feel, and who think, that overhearing is very bad, why do you want now to force my character to random overhearing?!? Do I must to do a suicide in cause of remorse?...

3. Why do you so much hate whispers? Why do you want to make us the Cantr more dificult and unpleasant? Do we playing in Cantr for a penalty?

4. We have a poll on polish forum. 75% polish forumers are not agree with "Overhearing whispers"!
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Postby Gran » Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:45 am

It is 77% or rejection in Polish Forums by now. >.>

Yeah, forgot that the polish live in very densely populated towns. A person on Vlotryan has 97% percent of chance of being heard. :?
I recommend to all that cease or avoid whispering to avoid any further trouble. Seriously, this ins't looking very nice, and it could possibly turn into a major RP breakdown.

Anyway, so far, it doesn't seems like this change will endure very much. Either put a location limit, make the probability smaller or simply turn it off, because it ain't working right in the current state.
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Re: Overhearing whispers, your opinion

Postby amika-babilfrenzo » Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:50 am

Mars wrote:1. In Vlotryan we have ~175 characters, and more then 100 in central location.
Each whisper is heard from 2 persons!


I personally think that it is unrealistic for a crowded town to have a huge probability that someone will hear, after all wouldn't there be a lot of background noise from all the hustle and bustle of people working, and talking?

Edit: Ah, and it's already being addressed -
SekoETC wrote:Anyway, if it wasn't clear from my previous post, I also think that the chances of being heard are too high in highly populated locations, so I'm going to make it so that it rolls for being heard in general, then only rolls for who heard if the first check returns true. But since the people hearing it are selected at random, there's a chance that none of them will hear it after all.

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Mars wrote:2. Cantr II is an online role-playing game without throwed the story. If I playing the old character, who have very high morality-feel, and who think, that overhearing is very bad, why do you want now to force my character to random overhearing?!? Do I must to do a suicide in cause of remorse?...


Maybe in Cantr overhearing is different? If your character wouldn't normally eavesdrop then clearly the people he heard were talking too loud, when they should have been whispering. There's no reason why your character should kill himself for other people's negligence.

Mars wrote:3. Why do you so much hate whispers? Why do you want to make us the Cantr more dificult and unpleasant? Do we playing in Cantr for a penalty?


I don't think the goal was to make Cantr difficult, just different. In real life, whispering isn't a full proof method of getting across information to only one individual. The cloak-and-dagger parts of society were forced to take their business to snoop-free warehouses, and in the past created thieves' cants, this is a wonderful opportunity to do the same in Cantr.

Edit: It's cloak-and-dagger not hook-and-dagger...
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Postby BZR » Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:55 am

I'm against.
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Postby BlueNine » Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:04 am

Haven't actually experienced this in game yet (damn most of my chars being on the road or inside) but I figured it would just end up being like when you're walking through town and pick up a sentence of someone elses convo...if its something funny, you laugh to your friends, if its something boring, you ignore it and if its a plot to kill everyone, you tell the authorities...
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Postby natene » Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:21 am

This is the stupidest thing,that I ever seen.. :evil:
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Postby *Wiro » Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:17 pm

Why are you people against? It'd help if you'd say why, so the feature could be adjusted or changed to fit everyone's desires. :S If you just say "blehh this is dumb", no one will know why and then there won't be any changes made to it to fit YOUR needs. I personally think that in towns such as Vlotryan it is perfectly fine for a lot of people to be overheard.

I don't get why people dislike the feature because it is a change. There's so many changes, what's next? No helicopters because it's something we didn't have before, and there's no reason to have it now? The list goes on and on, and I don't see Cantr as finished, there's a lot of features that would still have to be added.

As for that it is bad for RP...how? How is it bad for the RP at all? :S Do you HONESTLY think this the below is BETTER RP than overhearing one or two of those messages and being able to actually join in on the RP?

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You see a woman in her twenties talking to a man in his twenties.
You see a man in his twenties talking to a woman in her twenties.
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You see a man in his twenties talking to a woman in her twenties.
You see a woman in her twenties talking to a man in his twenties.
You see a man in his twenties talking to a woman in her twenties.
You see a woman in her twenties talking to a man in his twenties.
You see a man in his twenties talking to a woman in her twenties.
You see a woman in her twenties talking to a man in his twenties.
You see a man in his twenties talking to a woman in her twenties.
You see a woman in her twenties talking to a man in his twenties.
You see a man in his twenties talking to a woman in her twenties.
You see a woman in her twenties talking to a man in his twenties.
You see a man in his twenties talking to a woman in her twenties.
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