Reinforced Iron Shield

[N-Aldwitch]

You need an anvil to hammer this into place, and you need four steel 'strips' that you hammer on to the front of an iron shield, thus reinforcing it.

[Pieter de Groote]

Why?

[Chris Johnson]

Personally I see no need for this with the current combat system, which for all it's problems is balanced in terms of protection and combat damge

That aside, there is a thread for weapons and protection so I've move this to rejected suggestions

[Surly]

Balanced? Are you actually joking?

[Sicofonte]

Has someone ever defined what is balanced?

[N-Aldwitch]

Ooh fancy, I was going to go along with Chris and be like 'yeah ahh ok that makes sense, sorry, etc' but ooh two people arguing about Chris's only argument against, Balance!!

[formerly known as hf]

Balanced? Like angels on the point of a pin?

Gah, balancing seems a tad pointless when the combat system itself needs a re-think. It may have been viable in early Cantr days, grumble grumble but too many changes to other areas have made grumble grumble the combat system cumbersome and reliant on unimaginative strategies...

[Sicofonte]

xD, Farmer.


N, I was not arguing, just... I wonder what is balanced, which criterions are use, or how can we measure that balance.

[wichita]

I think the statement was referring to the idea that the average level of protection is adequate to deal with the average amount of damage dealt out.

You guys can piss and moan about the level of "average" all you want. You'll complain if we lower it. You'll complain if we raise it. You'll complain if we narrow the spread, you'll complain if we widen it. You'll complain if we do something, you'll complain if we do nothing. You'll complain if the players adjust, you'll complain if they keep doing the same thing. You'll complain if there is nothing to complain about.


Oh c'mon Henry! We can't help it if Hotlips O'Houlihan can't stand the sound of her own name!

Pull the pickle out of your ass and let the rest of us get on with the game.

[N-Aldwitch]

I think the statement was referring to the idea that the average level of protection is adequate to deal with the average amount of damage dealt out.

You guys can piss and moan about the level of "average" all you want. You'll complain if we lower it. You'll complain if we raise it. You'll complain if we narrow the spread, you'll complain if we widen it. You'll complain if we do something, you'll complain if we do nothing. You'll complain if the players adjust, you'll complain if they keep doing the same thing. You'll complain if there is nothing to complain about.


Oh c'mon Henry! We can't help it if Hotlips O'Houlihan can't stand the sound of her own name!

Pull the pickle out of your ass and let the rest of us get on with the game.

No we won't! I've never complained once in these forums! And either has anyone else!

.. oh wait..

[Surly]

You guys can piss and moan about the level of "average" all you want. You'll complain if we lower it. You'll complain if we raise it. You'll complain if we narrow the spread, you'll complain if we widen it. You'll complain if we do something, you'll complain if we do nothing. You'll complain if the players adjust, you'll complain if they keep doing the same thing. You'll complain if there is nothing to complain about.

Well, obviously because the RD chair mocks us for complaining, the system is perfect

[Arlequin]

I want to burn incoming enemy ships reflecting the sun with bronze shields...

[wichita]

I might be out of line, but why censor myself just because I happen to be "The Man", apparently...

Constructive criticism and organized, rational opinions I will gladly accept and engage in a civilized discussion. Flung poo, however, reaps a different reward.

[dryn]

You guys can piss and moan about the level of "average" all you want. You'll complain if we lower it. You'll complain if we raise it. You'll complain if we narrow the spread, you'll complain if we widen it. You'll complain if we do something, you'll complain if we do nothing. You'll complain if the players adjust, you'll complain if they keep doing the same thing. You'll complain if there is nothing to complain about.

Well, obviously because the RD chair mocks us for complaining, the system is perfect

Personally I didn't think of it as mocking so much as stating the obvious. You can't make changes based purely off complaints as there will almost always be someone who will complain about any aspect of the game.

Also he didn't say/imply anything about the system being perfect. The thing is even if criteria do get established for what is balenced and what is not then people will just complain about *that*.

[deadboy]

I think the statement was referring to the idea that the average level of protection is adequate to deal with the average amount of damage dealt out.

You guys can piss and moan about the level of "average" all you want. You'll complain if we lower it. You'll complain if we raise it. You'll complain if we narrow the spread, you'll complain if we widen it. You'll complain if we do something, you'll complain if we do nothing. You'll complain if the players adjust, you'll complain if they keep doing the same thing. You'll complain if there is nothing to complain about.


Oh c'mon Henry! We can't help it if Hotlips O'Houlihan can't stand the sound of her own name!

Pull the pickle out of your ass and let the rest of us get on with the game.

Hell, I'm English, you can't really blame me