Make Fire without Iron Tools

[g1asswa1ker]

Wooden shovels ???

[Ecilope]

Bone shovels would work. I mean, you can make a bone knife, a bone fur scraper, a bone needle. Why not a bone shovel?

[David]

I've got a bunch of dried up kindling and wood in my backyard, I want to make a fire without modern tools? Can anyone here teach me?

[g1asswa1ker]

pile wood, light kindling on fire, light wood with kindling

[David]

... the operative word is light... techniques? I know there is the bow thing, but I want to know if there are any pitfalls et cetra to aviod... forget it I will look it up on the net... lol no matches et cetra...

[Meh]

http://www.inquiry.net/outdoor/skills/s ... g_fire.htm

You can do it without the bow tool shown. The tool just helps.

[Ecilope]

Tom Hanks on Cast Away did it with an ice skate and wood
(I love that movie)

[Meh]

Someone brought up that the island was not big enough to support him.

I countered with "it can't take that many coconut trees to feed someone" {wood being a sperate issue}.

Turns out the tree is just full of stuff to eat {they looked it up}

You can live off of 5 to 20 trees for food.

[David]

Thanks David.

[The Industriallist]

[url]Cavemanchemistry.com[/url]

For all your primitive incindiary/chemical needs

Actually, the paper version would probably carry you from the bronze age to the industrial revolution. Useful in case of global collapse of civilization of general curiosity.

[David]

Hey Cool! Thanks Ind

[SekoETC]

Reviving this topic a bit...

Would it be possible to make it so that the hardness of digging a firepit would depend on the type of terrain?
- For beach I'd say easy since there rarely grows anything, the land is mostly sand and I bet everybody here has been digging holes on the beach in their childhood. The biggest problem is with the water getting on the bottom if you're too close to the water, but surely Cantrians would be wise enough to build their firepits on higher ground.
- Second easiest would be grassland. The land is rather soft and the roots are thin easy to dig.
- Third easiest, the desert. We don't know if Cantr deserts are shifting dunes or hard-packed sand, but at least we know there's no roots because of the lack of vegetation. And apparently no big stones either since has anyone heard of a desert with stuff other than sand and maybe salt? Oh, my mistake, I did find hemp on one! But that's a special desert.
- The forest. More difficult because of the roots, but I remember digging holes in the forest ground when I was a kid so it's possible.
- The hills. Hills tend to be partially covered in soft soil, since there's often potatoes and carrots. But also more stones. So that makes it hard.
- The mountains. Ouch. Maybe you could lose a bit of health from digging with your bare hands? Since getting sharp stones under your nails really hurts and you can get an infection too. Anyway, this should be the hardest ground for digging.
Yeah, and these things could affect burying speed too.

The use of shovel should be optional. Like in burying corpses or improving roads, it would merely speed up the process, but it would be possible to dig without tools.

[saztronic]

Am I missing something, or isn't everyone forgetting the obvious Smoker? A Smoker takes only wood to create, no iron, and you need only a hammer to make it, i.e., stone and wood, and you need only wood to operate it. And there are obvious advantages to a Smoker too that I won't go into OOC.

So.... what is the problem?

[SekoETC]

A smoker wasn't added when this topic was created. And it does require quite a bit of wood, so if you were far away from a forest and burning, lets say, dried dung in the future, a firepit would be a better option.

[EchoMan]

Yes, and to dry the dung to begin with in areas some distance from wood.

Dung is a dear topic to me, my favorite resource in Cantr.