Things you really want to see in "Cantr Statististics

[Doug R.]

That would be skewed by people using proxies (half the people in the Portuguese group, from what I hear).

[EchoMan]

More and more people are using anonymizers, bacause of the spread of various laws to prevent internet downloading. In a not so very distant future, all IP-lookups will be quite meaningless.

[Doug R.]

Unfortunately, people are also using them to hide their cheating, which is why we've disallowed there use for registering new accounts, and may actually take the extra step of prohibiting their use on suspect accounts. Natso made a good point that using proxies actually leaves your data open to more potential danger, so if you're using them in some attempt to protect yourself, you're just putting yourself at higher risk. Just imagine - these proxies are open to anyone, so anyone could slip monitoring software into the server and record everything you do.

Now we're way off topic

[SekoETC]

I'm sure this has been done before, but can we get an update?

Oldest characters grouped by language and age.

All of the oldest characters are English, so an international ranking wouldn't make much sense, and also I don't think it would be appropriate to post names since it would be obvious which ones are played by the same person.

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Language     Age of oldest person
English     156
Dutch    92
French    100
German    88
Spanish    108
Russian    105
Swedish    126
Esperanto    77
Polish    117
Turkish    55
Portuguese    86
Lithuanian    98
Chinese    60
Finnish    77

I'm surprised there's still at least one Chinese character alive because there were only four of them left last time it was included in statistics and even then none of them had been checked recently.

As for increase in fighting skill, I'm not sure if the value in the genes table actually represents the skill the person started with, since if they did, that would mean something is bugged because there are 44 people with negative increase. The greatest increase is 7931 points, from awkward to expert, for a character who was spawned in the 2800's, so I suspect the initial value is not actually recorded and the genes table is just some sort of a modifier.

The ip stuff is difficult, I managed to get Excel to display only the first part of an ip address and convert it from text to a number so that I can sort them as numbers. There are two people who mention their country as Israel. IP addresses can start with dozens of different numbers for people who have listed the same country as their own, and also people from different countries might have IP addresses starting with the same number.

[Piscator]

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Language     Age of oldest person
German    88
Esperanto    77


Both are mine. Can you tell me how old the second- and third-oldest Germans are?

[YugoStrikesBack]

English 156

Someone needs to just die already.

[SekoETC]

79 and 73.

Okay, here are the ages and languages of everyone over 60. They are ordered by spawndate.

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156   English
156   English
155   English
155   English
155   English
155   English
147   English
147   English
147   English
147   English
147   English
147   English
147   English
147   English
144   English
144   English
144   English
144   English
144   English
143   English
142   English
136   English
135   English
135   English
134   English
133   English
133   English
131   English
130   English
128   English
127   English
127   English
126   Swedish
126   English
126   English
125   English
124   English
123   English
122   Swedish
122   English
122   Swedish
122   Swedish
122   Swedish
122   English
122   English
121   English
121   English
121   Swedish
121   English
121   English
121   English
120   English
120   English
120   English
119   English
119   Swedish
119   Swedish
118   English
118   English
117   English
117   English
117   Polish
117   English
116   English
116   Polish
116   English
116   Polish
115   Swedish
114   Swedish
114   English
114   English
113   English
113   English
113   English
113   English
112   English
112   English
112   English
112   English
112   English
112   English
112   English
112   English
111   English
111   English
111   English
110   English
110   English
110   English
110   English
109   English
109   English
109   English
108   English
108   Spanish
107   Polish
107   Polish
106   English
106   Polish
106   Polish
106   Polish
106   Polish
106   Polish
106   Polish
106   Polish
106   Polish
106   Polish
105   English
105   Polish
105   Polish
105   Polish
105   English
105   English
105   English
105   English
105   Russian
105   English
105   English
104   English
104   English
104   English
104   English
104   Polish
104   English
104   Polish
104   English
103   Polish
103   Polish
103   Polish
103   Polish
103   Polish
103   Polish
103   English
102   English
102   English
102   Polish
102   Polish
102   English
101   Polish
101   English
101   English
101   Polish
100   French
100   French
100   English
100   Polish
99   Polish
99   English
98   Polish
98   English
98   Lithuanian
98   Lithuanian
98   English
98   English
98   English
98   Polish
98   English
98   English
98   English
98   English
97   English
97   English
97   Polish
97   Polish
97   Lithuanian
97   Lithuanian
96   Polish
96   Lithuanian
96   Lithuanian
96   Lithuanian
96   Polish
96   Lithuanian
96   Polish
96   Polish
95   Polish
95   Lithuanian
95   Russian
95   Polish
95   Lithuanian
95   English
95   English
95   Polish
95   Lithuanian
95   Polish
95   Polish
94   Spanish
94   Lithuanian
94   Lithuanian
94   Polish
94   Lithuanian
94   Polish
94   English
94   Polish
94   English
94   English
94   Lithuanian
94   Spanish
94   English
94   Polish
94   Polish
94   Polish
93   Lithuanian
93   Lithuanian
93   English
93   Polish
93   Polish
93   Polish
93   Polish
93   Polish
93   Lithuanian
93   Lithuanian
92   English
92   Polish
92   Spanish
92   Lithuanian
92   Dutch
92   Lithuanian
92   Polish
92   Lithuanian
92   English
92   Polish
92   Polish
92   English
92   Lithuanian
92   English
92   English
92   English
91   Polish
91   English
91   English
91   Lithuanian
91   English
91   Spanish
91   Polish
91   English
91   English
91   English
91   Dutch
91   English
91   English
91   English
91   Lithuanian
90   English
90   Polish
90   English
90   Lithuanian
90   Spanish
90   English
90   English
90   English
90   English
90   Polish
90   Lithuanian
90   English
90   Polish
90   English
90   Lithuanian
89   English
89   English
89   Polish
89   English
89   English
89   English
89   Swedish
89   English
89   Polish
88   English
88   German
88   English
88   English
88   English
88   Polish
88   Polish
88   English
88   English
87   Polish
87   Russian
87   Polish
87   English
87   Lithuanian
87   Polish
86   Spanish
86   Polish
86   Polish
86   Portuguese
86   Spanish
86   Spanish
86   English
85   Polish
85   Portuguese
85   English
85   Portuguese
85   Polish
85   Spanish
85   Portuguese
85   Spanish
85   Spanish
85   Polish
85   Portuguese
85   Spanish
85   Polish
85   English
85   Spanish
85   Polish
85   Portuguese
85   Spanish
85   Polish
85   Portuguese
85   English
85   Spanish
85   Polish
85   English
85   Polish
85   Polish
85   Spanish
84   Spanish
84   Polish
84   Polish
84   English
84   Spanish
84   Spanish
84   English
84   English
84   Spanish
84   Polish
84   Polish
84   Polish
84   English
84   Lithuanian
84   English
84   Polish
84   Polish
84   English
84   Spanish
84   Polish
84   Polish
84   Polish
84   Polish
84   Polish
84   Polish
84   Polish
84   Lithuanian
83   Polish
83   Lithuanian
83   Lithuanian
83   Lithuanian
83   Spanish
83   Polish
83   Polish
83   Lithuanian
83   Spanish
83   Polish
83   Polish
83   Polish
83   Polish
83   Swedish
83   Portuguese
83   Polish
83   Polish
83   Polish
83   Portuguese
82   Polish
82   Polish
82   English
82   Dutch
82   Polish
82   Dutch
82   Polish
82   English
82   Polish
82   Polish
82   Dutch
82   Portuguese
82   Polish
82   Swedish
82   Polish
82   Swedish
82   Spanish
82   Polish
81   Polish
81   Spanish
81   Polish
81   Polish
81   Polish
81   Polish
81   Swedish
81   Polish
81   Polish
81   Polish
81   Polish
81   Polish
81   Polish
81   Polish
81   Polish
81   Polish
81   Polish
81   Polish
81   Polish
81   Polish
81   Polish
81   Polish
81   Polish
81   Polish
81   Polish
81   Polish
81   Polish
80   Polish
80   Dutch
80   Polish
80   Polish
80   Portuguese
80   Polish
80   Polish
80   Polish
80   Spanish
79   Polish
79   Spanish
79   Spanish
79   Spanish
79   English
79   Polish
79   Polish
79   Polish
79   Polish
79   Polish
79   Spanish
79   Polish
79   Polish
79   Polish
79   English
79   Spanish
79   German
79   English
79   Polish
79   Lithuanian
78   Polish
78   English
78   Spanish
78   English
78   Spanish
78   Spanish
78   Polish
78   Spanish
78   Polish
78   Polish
78   Spanish
78   Polish
78   Spanish
78   Spanish
78   Spanish
78   Lithuanian
78   Lithuanian
77   Polish
77   Polish
77   Polish
77   English
77   Lithuanian
77   Lithuanian
77   Polish
77   English
77   Polish
77   Russian
77   Dutch
77   Polish
77   Polish
77   English
77   Spanish
77   Lithuanian
77   Polish
77   Polish
77   Polish
77   English
77   English
77   English
77   Polish
77   Lithuanian
77   Polish
77   Finnish
77   Polish
77   Polish
77   Polish
77   Polish
77   Polish
77   English
77   Polish
77   Polish
77   Esperanto
76   Polish
76   Spanish
76   Polish
76   Polish
76   Spanish
76   English
76   Spanish
76   Polish
76   Polish
76   Polish
76   Polish
76   Spanish
76   Esperanto
76   English
76   Spanish
76   English
76   English
76   Polish
76   Polish
75   Polish
75   Spanish
75   English
75   Lithuanian
75   Lithuanian
75   Polish
75   English
75   Spanish
75   Spanish
75   Spanish
75   Spanish
75   Lithuanian
75   Polish
75   Lithuanian
75   Spanish
75   English
75   English
75   Spanish
75   English
75   Spanish
75   Spanish
75   Spanish
75   English
75   English
75   English
75   English
75   Esperanto
75   English
74   Esperanto
74   Esperanto
74   Spanish
74   English
74   English
74   English
74   English
74   Polish
74   Esperanto
74   Esperanto
74   Polish
74   Polish
74   Polish
74   Lithuanian
74   English
74   Esperanto
74   Lithuanian
74   Polish
74   Lithuanian
74   Polish
74   Lithuanian
73   English
73   Spanish
73   Lithuanian
73   Lithuanian
73   Lithuanian
73   Lithuanian
73   Lithuanian
73   Spanish
73   English
73   Lithuanian
73   Lithuanian
73   Esperanto
73   Spanish
73   German
73   Lithuanian
73   Spanish
73   English
73   Spanish
73   Spanish
73   Polish
73   Spanish
73   Spanish
73   Spanish
73   Polish
73   Spanish
73   English
73   English
73   Polish
73   Polish
73   Lithuanian
72   Spanish
72   Lithuanian
72   Lithuanian
72   Polish
72   Polish
72   Spanish
72   Polish
72   Lithuanian
72   Lithuanian
72   Polish
72   Polish
72   Polish
72   Spanish
72   Spanish
72   Polish
72   Polish
71   Lithuanian
71   Polish
71   English
71   Polish
71   English
71   Polish
71   English
71   English
71   English
71   Lithuanian
71   Lithuanian
71   Spanish
71   English
71   English
71   Swedish
71   Polish
71   English
71   English
71   English
71   English
71   Spanish
71   Polish
71   Polish
70   English
70   English
70   English
70   Esperanto
70   English
70   Polish
70   Polish
70   Lithuanian
70   English
70   Polish
70   Polish
70   Polish
70   English
70   Lithuanian
70   Lithuanian
70   Polish
70   Polish
70   Polish
70   Polish
69   Polish
69   Lithuanian
69   English
69   Spanish
69   Polish
69   Spanish
69   Polish
69   Polish
69   Spanish
69   Polish
69   English
69   Polish
69   Esperanto
69   Polish
69   Polish
69   Polish
69   Lithuanian
69   English
69   Esperanto
69   Esperanto
69   Polish
69   English
69   Polish
69   Lithuanian
69   Lithuanian
68   Polish
68   Esperanto
68   Polish
68   Polish
68   Polish
68   Polish
68   English
68   Polish
68   English
68   Polish
68   English
68   Polish
68   Polish
68   Polish
68   Spanish
68   Spanish
68   Polish
68   Spanish
68   Polish
68   Polish
68   Polish
68   English
68   Spanish
68   Polish
68   English
68   English
68   English
68   Spanish
68   English
67   English
67   English
67   Polish
67   English
67   Polish
67   English
67   Spanish
67   Lithuanian
67   German
67   English
67   Polish
67   English
67   Spanish
67   English
67   Spanish
67   English
67   English
67   English
67   Spanish
66   English
66   English
66   English
66   Lithuanian
66   Swedish
66   English
66   Polish
66   English
66   Polish
66   English
65   English
65   Spanish
65   Polish
65   English
65   English
65   Polish
65   Polish
65   English
65   Spanish
65   English
65   English
65   English
65   Polish
65   Polish
65   Polish
65   Polish
65   English
64   English
64   Spanish
64   English
64   English
64   English
64   Spanish
64   Polish
64   Spanish
64   English
64   English
64   English
64   English
64   Polish
63   English
63   English
63   Polish
63   Portuguese
63   Polish
63   Polish
63   English
63   English
63   English
63   English
63   Polish
63   English
63   English
63   English
63   Polish
62   Spanish
62   Polish
62   Polish
62   Polish
62   English
62   Lithuanian
62   English
62   Spanish
62   Spanish
62   English
62   English
62   Lithuanian
62   English
62   Polish
62   Spanish
62   Spanish
62   Spanish
62   English
62   Spanish
62   English
62   English
61   Polish
61   Polish
61   Lithuanian
61   Polish
61   Polish
61   Polish
61   English
61   English
61   Polish
61   Spanish
61   English
61   English
61   English
61   Dutch
61   Polish
61   Esperanto
61   Polish
60   English
60   English
60   Polish
60   Polish
60   English
60   Spanish
60   Polish
60   English
60   Lithuanian
60   English
60   French
60   English
60   Portuguese
60   Dutch
60   Lithuanian
60   Lithuanian
60   Lithuanian
60   English
60   English
60   English
60   Dutch
60   Polish
60   English
60   Lithuanian
60   Chinese
60   Spanish

And naughty Yugo, don't tell old people to die.

[Piscator]

Oh, wow, the next three Germans are mine too.

[Rebma]

I'm oddly happy to be on that list.

[SekoETC]

Oh, wow, the next three Germans are mine too.

Isn't that a bit depressing?

[Doug R.]

I'm oddly happy to be on that list.

Me too. I've officially outlived my first account by about 10 Cantr years.

[Piscator]

Oh, wow, the next three Germans are mine too.

Isn't that a bit depressing?

No, not really. I'm pretty happy that they managed to survive that long and it's interesting to know that I have the only surviving pre-bottleneck characters (we were down to 19 chars a while ago), not that it surprises me much.

I also have an English char somewhere on that list, by the way.

[JackTR]

I guess that the two Israel IPs are mine (one comp at home, the other at the flat near the college).

[Ryaga]

Banning Cantr over proxies is not so hot a move. I bet alot of people use open proxies or Tor at work or school for access. I have my own proxy set up running through home but I'm pretty sure most don't.

[trojo]

There are 14 Esperanto chars over 60. That's like a third of the total Eo population. Surely that isn't normal? Can we see age distribution by language group, or has that already been done earlier in the thread?